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From: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	Michael@phoronix.com, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arc4random - are you sure we want these?
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 00:18:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACXcFm=N4ii8yW27TNrsC-XH21c5iPsQ85MMjWpq=3sHvgjKJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220725153303.GF7074@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

> This is an extreme documentation/specification bug that *hurts*
> portability and security. The core contract of the historical
> arc4random function is that it *is* a CSPRNG. Having a function by
> that name that's allowed not to be one means now all software using it
> has to add detection for the broken glibc variant.
>
> If the glibc implementation has flaws that actually make it not a
> CSPRNG, this absolutely needs to be fixed. Not doing so is
> irresponsible and will set everyone back a long ways.

Exactly!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-25 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-23 16:22 arc4random - are you sure we want these? Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-23 16:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-23 17:18   ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-24 23:55     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 20:31       ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-23 17:39   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-23 22:54     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 15:33     ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 15:59       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-25 16:18       ` Sandy Harris [this message]
2022-07-25 16:40       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 16:51         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 17:44         ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 18:33           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-25 18:49             ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 18:49               ` Rich Felker
     [not found]               ` <YuCa1lDqoxdnZut/@mit.edu>
     [not found]                 ` <a5b6307d-6811-61b6-c13d-febaa6ad1e48@linaro.org>
     [not found]                   ` <YuEwR0bJhOvRtmFe@mit.edu>
2022-07-27 12:49                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-27 20:15                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27 21:59                         ` Rich Felker
2022-07-28  0:30                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-28  0:39                         ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-23 19:04   ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-23 22:59     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-24 16:23       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-24 21:57         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 10:14     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 10:11   ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 11:04     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 12:39       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 13:43         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 13:58           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-25 16:06           ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 16:43             ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 14:27         ` Overwrittting AT_RANDOM after use (was Re: arc4random - are you sure we want these?) Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 14:35         ` arc4random - are you sure we want these? Yann Droneaud
2022-07-25 13:25       ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-07-25 13:48         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 14:56     ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 22:57   ` [PATCH] arc4random: simplify design for better safety Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:11     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:28     ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:59       ` Eric Biggers
2022-07-26 10:26         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26  1:10       ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 10:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:06           ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 16:51           ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 18:42             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:24               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26  9:55       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:04         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:07           ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:11             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:12           ` [PATCH v2] " Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:20             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:35               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:33       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:54         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:08           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:20           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:34           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 12:47             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 13:11               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 13:30     ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 15:21       ` Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 16:20       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 18:36         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:08       ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:58         ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 20:17           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 20:56             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-28 10:29           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 10:36             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 11:01               ` Adhemerval Zanella

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