From: "Cristian Rodríguez" <crrodriguez@opensuse.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com>,
jann@thejh.net,
"Jason A. Donenfeld via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Michael@phoronix.com
Subject: Re: arc4random - are you sure we want these?
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:58:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPBLoAcadZw=bqKRn1Wd+NU=Cp+M+4ASB1e4qZbi01vZsgSsNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yt6eHfnlEN8ViWrA@zx2c4.com>
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jason A. Donenfeld via Libc-alpha
<libc-alpha@sourceware.org> wrote:
> Or, if you insist on providing these functions t o d a y, and won't heed
> my warnings about designing the APIs alongside the implementations, then
> just make them thin wrappers over getrandom(0) *without* doing fancy
> buffering, and then optimizations later can improve it. That would be
> the incremental approach, which wouldn't harm potential users. It also
> wouldn't shut the door on doing the buffering: if the kernel
> optimization improvements go nowhere, and you decide it's a lost cause,
> you can always change the way it works later, and make that decision
> then.
My 2CLP here if that matters..I agree with this sentiment/approach.
provide this functions for source compat which all juist call
getrandom and abort on failure *for now*
and then a future iteration can have something done about the syscall
overhead with kernel help.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-25 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-23 16:22 arc4random - are you sure we want these? Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-23 16:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-23 17:18 ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-24 23:55 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 20:31 ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-23 17:39 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-23 22:54 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 15:33 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 15:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-25 16:18 ` Sandy Harris
2022-07-25 16:40 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 16:51 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 17:44 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 18:33 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-25 18:49 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 18:49 ` Rich Felker
[not found] ` <YuCa1lDqoxdnZut/@mit.edu>
[not found] ` <a5b6307d-6811-61b6-c13d-febaa6ad1e48@linaro.org>
[not found] ` <YuEwR0bJhOvRtmFe@mit.edu>
2022-07-27 12:49 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-27 20:15 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27 21:59 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-28 0:30 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-28 0:39 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-23 19:04 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-23 22:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-24 16:23 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-24 21:57 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 10:14 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 10:11 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 11:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 12:39 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 13:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 13:58 ` Cristian Rodríguez [this message]
2022-07-25 16:06 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 16:43 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 14:27 ` Overwrittting AT_RANDOM after use (was Re: arc4random - are you sure we want these?) Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 14:35 ` arc4random - are you sure we want these? Yann Droneaud
2022-07-25 13:25 ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-07-25 13:48 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 14:56 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 22:57 ` [PATCH] arc4random: simplify design for better safety Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:11 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:28 ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:59 ` Eric Biggers
2022-07-26 10:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 1:10 ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 10:41 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:06 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 16:51 ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 18:42 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 9:55 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:11 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:20 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:35 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:33 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:54 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:08 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:20 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:34 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 12:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 13:11 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 13:30 ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 15:21 ` Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 16:20 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 18:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:58 ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 20:17 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 20:56 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-28 10:29 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 10:36 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 11:01 ` Adhemerval Zanella
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