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From: Pascal Van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>,
	Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [dm-devel] xts fuzz testing and lack of ciphertext stealing support
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:56:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MN2PR20MB2973AA13DA1AF2AF35F27850CAC30@MN2PR20MB2973.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9krpqWYuD2mQFBTspo3y_TwrN6Arbvkcs=e4MpTeitHA@mail.gmail.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:39 AM
> To: Pascal Van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com>
> Cc: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>; Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>; Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>; dm-
> devel@redhat.com; linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [dm-devel] xts fuzz testing and lack of ciphertext stealing support
> 
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 at 00:43, Pascal Van Leeuwen
> <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com> wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:59 PM
> > > To: Pascal Van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com>; Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> > > Cc: Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>; Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>; dm-devel@redhat.com; linux-
> > > crypto@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [dm-devel] xts fuzz testing and lack of ciphertext stealing support
> > >
> > > On 7/26/2019 1:31 PM, Pascal Van Leeuwen wrote:
> > > > Ok, find below a patch file that adds your vectors from the specification
> > > > plus my set of additional vectors covering all CTS alignments combined
> > > > with the block sizes you desired. Please note though that these vectors
> > > > are from our in-house home-grown model so no warranties.
> > > I've checked the test vectors against caam (HW + driver).
> > >
> > > Test vectors from IEEE 1619-2007 (i.e. up to and including "XTS-AES 18")
> > > are fine.
> > >
> > > caam complains when /* Additional vectors to increase CTS coverage */
> > > section starts:
> > > alg: skcipher: xts-aes-caam encryption test failed (wrong result) on test vector 9, cfg="in-place"
> > >
> > > (Unfortunately it seems that testmgr lost the capability of dumping
> > > the incorrect output.)
> > >
> > > IMO we can't rely on test vectors if they are not taken
> > > straight out of a spec, or cross-checked with other implementations.
> > >
> >
> > First off, I fully agree with your statement, which is why I did not post this as a straight
> > patch. The problem is that specification vectors usually (or actuaclly, always) don't cover
> > all the relevant corner cases needed for verification. And "reference" implementations
> > by academics are usually shady at best as well.
> >
> > In this particular case, the reference vectors only cover 5 out of 16 possible alignment
> > cases and the current situation proves that this is not sufficient. As we have 2 imple-
> > mentations (or actually more, if you count the models used for vector generation)
> > that are considered to be correct that disagree on results.
> >
> > Which is very interesting, because which one is correct? I know that our model and
> > hardware implementation were independently developed (by 2 different engineers)
> > from the IEEE spec and match on results. And our hardware has been used "out in
> > the field" for many years already in disk controllers from major silicon vendors.
> > But that's still not a guarantee .... So how do we resolve this? Majority vote? ;-)
> >
> 
> Thanks for the additional test vectors. They work fine with my SIMD
> implementations for ARM [0], so this looks like it might be a CAAM
> problem, not a problem with the test vectors.
> 
Thanks for the heads up! As the engineer actually responsible for our hardware
implementation, I can now sleep at night again :-)

Not that I was too worried - the design has been in active use for nearly 12 years
already without any known issues, but still ...

> I will try to find some time today to run them through OpenSSL to double check.
> 
> 
> [0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ardb/linux.git/commit/?h=xts-cts

Regards,
Pascal van Leeuwen
Silicon IP Architect, Multi-Protocol Engines @ Verimatrix
www.insidesecure.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-27 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-16 17:46 xts fuzz testing and lack of ciphertext stealing support Horia Geanta
2019-07-16 22:16 ` Eric Biggers
2019-07-17 17:09   ` Horia Geanta
2019-07-17 17:28     ` Eric Biggers
2019-07-17 18:08       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-18  6:52         ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18  7:15           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-18  7:21             ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18  7:28               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-18  7:50                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18  7:40               ` Milan Broz
2019-07-18 10:40                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-18 11:19                   ` Milan Broz
2019-07-18 15:27                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-20  6:58                     ` [dm-devel] " Eric Biggers
2019-07-20  7:35                       ` Milan Broz
2019-07-21  9:50                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-22  9:44                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-22 16:43                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-22 22:46                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-24 12:23                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-24 12:50                                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-24 16:10                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-25  6:22                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-25  7:49                                   ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-25  8:01                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-26 10:31                                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-26 19:59                                         ` Horia Geanta
2019-07-26 21:43                                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-27  5:39                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-27 12:56                                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen [this message]
2019-07-27 16:04                                               ` Milan Broz
2019-08-04  8:36                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                         ` <20f4832e-e3af-e3c2-d946-13bf8c367a60@nxp.com>
2019-08-07 15:51                                           ` Horia Geanta
2019-08-07 20:57                                             ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-08 14:50                                               ` Horia Geanta
2019-08-09  8:35                                                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-08 13:43                                             ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-08 18:01                                               ` Horia Geanta
2019-08-09  2:48                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-08-09  6:45                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-08-09  7:44                                                     ` Horia Geanta
2019-08-09 17:49                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-08-09 20:57                                                         ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-10  4:39                                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-08-11 11:12                                                             ` Milan Broz
2019-08-11 20:34                                                               ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-11 21:39                                                                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-11 21:29                                                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-12  4:51                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-08-11 21:15                                                             ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-08-11 22:24                                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-08-12  1:04                                                                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-18 15:29                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18 15:43                     ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-18 15:51                       ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18 16:19                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-18 16:22                           ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-18 17:03                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-19  5:34                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-19  7:29                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-19 17:14                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-07-19 20:07                                   ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-18 16:35                         ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-07-19  1:47                           ` Herbert Xu

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