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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:51:38 -0400
Message-ID: <20200924095138.5318d242@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200924124241.GK2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 14:42:41 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 08:32:41AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > Anyway, instead of blocking. What about having a counter of number of
> > migrate disabled tasks per cpu, and when taking a migrate_disable(), and there's
> > already another task with migrate_disabled() set, and the current task has
> > an affinity greater than 1, it tries to migrate to another CPU?  
> 
> That doesn't solve the problem. On wakeup we should already prefer an
> idle CPU over one running a (RT) task, but you can always wake more
> tasks than there's CPUs around and you'll _have_ to stack at some point.

Yes, understood.

> 
> The trick is how to unstack them correctly. We need to detect when a
> migrate_disable() task _should_ start running again, and migrate away
> whoever is in the way at that point.
> 
> It turns out, that getting selected for pull-balance is exactly that
> condition, and clearly a migrate_disable() task cannot be pulled, but we
> can use that signal to try and pull away the running task that's in the
> way.

Unless of course that running task is in a migrate disable section
itself ;-)

But I guess we will always have that SHC, and there will always be a
scenario that you can't balance properly. But hopefully in practice we
wont see that.

How to handle kmap_local(), will migrate_disable() be used only for
32bit or, for consistency, will it also apply to 64bit?

-- Steve

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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19  9:17 Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 01/15] mm/highmem: Un-EXPORT __kmap_atomic_idx() Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 02/15] highmem: Provide generic variant of kmap_atomic* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 03/15] x86/mm/highmem: Use generic kmap atomic implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 04/15] arc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 05/15] ARM: highmem: Switch to generic kmap atomic Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 06/15] csky/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  0:05   ` Guo Ren
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 07/15] microblaze/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 08/15] mips/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 09/15] nds32/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 10/15] powerpc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 11/15] sparc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 12/15] xtensa/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 13/15] mm/highmem: Remove the old kmap_atomic cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 14/15] sched: highmem: Store temporary kmaps in task struct Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 15/15] mm/highmem: Provide kmap_temporary* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 10:35 ` [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Daniel Vetter
2020-09-19 10:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20  6:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20 17:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19 17:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19 19:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:58     ` Ira Weiny
2020-09-20  6:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21  7:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21 16:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  8:40                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 13:35                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 15:52                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-23 20:55                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 21:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  6:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 12:32                             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 12:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 13:51                                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-09-24 13:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 17:55                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 18:58                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  8:27                       ` peterz
2020-09-24 19:36                         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-09-23 10:19                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 12:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 14:33                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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