[PATCH] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sr-som: Increase the PHY reset duration to 10ms

[PATCH] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sr-som: Increase the PHY reset duration to 10ms

[Maxime Chevallier]

The datasheet for the AR803x PHY present on this SoM recommends that the
reset line is asserted low for 10ms, so that the PHY has time to
properly reset the internal blocks.

The previous value of 2ms was found to be problematic on some setups,
causing intermittent issues where the PHY would be unresponsive
every once in a while on some sytems, with a low occurence (it typically
took around 30 consecutive reboots to encounter the issue).

Bumping the delay to the 10ms recommended value makes the issue
dissapear, with more than 2500 consecutive reboots performed without the
issue showing-up.

Fixes: 208d7baf8085 ("ARM: imx: initial SolidRun HummingBoard support")
Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Tested-by: Hervé Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
---
 arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
index 0ad8ccde0cf8..a54dafce025b 100644
--- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ &fec {
 	pinctrl-names = "default";
 	pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_microsom_enet_ar8035>;
 	phy-mode = "rgmii-id";
-	phy-reset-duration = <2>;
+	phy-reset-duration = <10>;
 	phy-reset-gpios = <&gpio4 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
 	status = "okay";
 
-- 
2.25.4

Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sr-som: Increase the PHY reset duration to 10ms

[Russell King (Oracle)]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:30:51AM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> The datasheet for the AR803x PHY present on this SoM recommends that the
> reset line is asserted low for 10ms, so that the PHY has time to
> properly reset the internal blocks.
> 
> The previous value of 2ms was found to be problematic on some setups,
> causing intermittent issues where the PHY would be unresponsive
> every once in a while on some sytems, with a low occurence (it typically
> took around 30 consecutive reboots to encounter the issue).
> 
> Bumping the delay to the 10ms recommended value makes the issue
> dissapear, with more than 2500 consecutive reboots performed without the
> issue showing-up.

This isn't actually what the datasheet says, which is:

  Input clock including the crystal and external input clock should be
  stable for at least 1ms before RESET can be deasserted.

  When using crystal, the clock is generated internally after power is
  stable. For a reliable power on reset, suggest to keep asserting the
  reset low long enough (10ms) to ensure the clock is stable and
  clock-to-reset 1ms requirement is satisfied.

The 10ms duration you quote is the _power on reset_ duration, and in
those circumstances, there is a delay before the required clocks will
be stable.

This is not a power on reset scenario - the power was applied long ago
by the time the kernel starts booting, and XI clock would have been
running.

So, I think the commit message which seems to be claiming that the reset
line always needs to be asserted for 10ms is not entirely accurate.

> 
> Fixes: 208d7baf8085 ("ARM: imx: initial SolidRun HummingBoard support")
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
> Tested-by: Hervé Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
> index 0ad8ccde0cf8..a54dafce025b 100644
> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ &fec {
>  	pinctrl-names = "default";
>  	pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_microsom_enet_ar8035>;
>  	phy-mode = "rgmii-id";
> -	phy-reset-duration = <2>;
> +	phy-reset-duration = <10>;
>  	phy-reset-gpios = <&gpio4 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
>  	status = "okay";
>  
> -- 
> 2.25.4
> 
> 

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Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sr-som: Increase the PHY reset duration to 10ms

[Maxime Chevallier]

Hi Russell,

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:38:40 +0100
"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:30:51AM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
>> The datasheet for the AR803x PHY present on this SoM recommends that the
>> reset line is asserted low for 10ms, so that the PHY has time to
>> properly reset the internal blocks.
>> 
>> The previous value of 2ms was found to be problematic on some setups,
>> causing intermittent issues where the PHY would be unresponsive
>> every once in a while on some sytems, with a low occurence (it typically
>> took around 30 consecutive reboots to encounter the issue).
>> 
>> Bumping the delay to the 10ms recommended value makes the issue
>> dissapear, with more than 2500 consecutive reboots performed without the
>> issue showing-up.  
>
>This isn't actually what the datasheet says, which is:
>
>  Input clock including the crystal and external input clock should be
>  stable for at least 1ms before RESET can be deasserted.
>
>  When using crystal, the clock is generated internally after power is
>  stable. For a reliable power on reset, suggest to keep asserting the
>  reset low long enough (10ms) to ensure the clock is stable and
>  clock-to-reset 1ms requirement is satisfied.
>
>The 10ms duration you quote is the _power on reset_ duration, and in
>those circumstances, there is a delay before the required clocks will
>be stable.
>
>This is not a power on reset scenario - the power was applied long ago
>by the time the kernel starts booting, and XI clock would have been
>running.
>
>So, I think the commit message which seems to be claiming that the reset
>line always needs to be asserted for 10ms is not entirely accurate.

You're correct, indeed, I guess we read that a bit too fast.

However, we do see that bumping the reset duration fixes the issue that
was encountered.

To give you more details about this issue, in that scenario the PHY
would fail the autoneg process, no matter how many times we
enable/disable the link and restart autoneg.

The low duration of the reset might put the internal blocks in an
unknown state, but I don't actually have the real hardware-side
explanation for what is actually happening.

Further testing showed, for example, that decreasing the time of reset
assertion to 1ms made the issue appear everytime, whereas bumping it to
10 ms fixed it entirely.

In the absence of any other indication about how long should that reset
be asserted, and after thourough testing, 10ms seems like a good enough
value.

I'll send a V2 with the commit log fixed.

Thanks for the quick review,

Maxime

>> 
>> Fixes: 208d7baf8085 ("ARM: imx: initial SolidRun HummingBoard support")
>> Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
>> Tested-by: Hervé Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
>> index 0ad8ccde0cf8..a54dafce025b 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6qdl-sr-som.dtsi
>> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ &fec {
>>  	pinctrl-names = "default";
>>  	pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_microsom_enet_ar8035>;
>>  	phy-mode = "rgmii-id";
>> -	phy-reset-duration = <2>;
>> +	phy-reset-duration = <10>;
>>  	phy-reset-gpios = <&gpio4 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
>>  	status = "okay";
>>  
>> -- 
>> 2.25.4
>> 
>>   
>



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Embedded Linux and kernel engineering
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Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sr-som: Increase the PHY reset duration to 10ms

[Russell King (Oracle)]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 11:35:50AM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> Hi Russell,
> 
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:38:40 +0100
> "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:30:51AM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> >> The datasheet for the AR803x PHY present on this SoM recommends that the
> >> reset line is asserted low for 10ms, so that the PHY has time to
> >> properly reset the internal blocks.
> >> 
> >> The previous value of 2ms was found to be problematic on some setups,
> >> causing intermittent issues where the PHY would be unresponsive
> >> every once in a while on some sytems, with a low occurence (it typically
> >> took around 30 consecutive reboots to encounter the issue).
> >> 
> >> Bumping the delay to the 10ms recommended value makes the issue
> >> dissapear, with more than 2500 consecutive reboots performed without the
> >> issue showing-up.  
> >
> >This isn't actually what the datasheet says, which is:
> >
> >  Input clock including the crystal and external input clock should be
> >  stable for at least 1ms before RESET can be deasserted.
> >
> >  When using crystal, the clock is generated internally after power is
> >  stable. For a reliable power on reset, suggest to keep asserting the
> >  reset low long enough (10ms) to ensure the clock is stable and
> >  clock-to-reset 1ms requirement is satisfied.
> >
> >The 10ms duration you quote is the _power on reset_ duration, and in
> >those circumstances, there is a delay before the required clocks will
> >be stable.
> >
> >This is not a power on reset scenario - the power was applied long ago
> >by the time the kernel starts booting, and XI clock would have been
> >running.
> >
> >So, I think the commit message which seems to be claiming that the reset
> >line always needs to be asserted for 10ms is not entirely accurate.
> 
> You're correct, indeed, I guess we read that a bit too fast.
> 
> However, we do see that bumping the reset duration fixes the issue that
> was encountered.
> 
> To give you more details about this issue, in that scenario the PHY
> would fail the autoneg process, no matter how many times we
> enable/disable the link and restart autoneg.
> 
> The low duration of the reset might put the internal blocks in an
> unknown state, but I don't actually have the real hardware-side
> explanation for what is actually happening.
> 
> Further testing showed, for example, that decreasing the time of reset
> assertion to 1ms made the issue appear everytime, whereas bumping it to
> 10 ms fixed it entirely.
> 
> In the absence of any other indication about how long should that reset
> be asserted, and after thourough testing, 10ms seems like a good enough
> value.
> 
> I'll send a V2 with the commit log fixed.
> 
> Thanks for the quick review,

Thanks. For the record, I don't have an issue with bumping it to 10ms,
only that the above would be useful information in the commit long.

I wonder if we should be recording these kinds of behaviours somewhere,
so e.g. we recommend that all AR803x should use a reset duration of
10ms with the above explanation. Just a thought to save others needing
to do the same research.

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