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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Adamski <krzysztof.adamski@nokia.com>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Linux HWMON List <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Oskar Senft <osk@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: allow specifying channels for tmp421
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:52:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210921205247.GA2363535@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqLo=inkKVKSU8N=_h90RfpDk6NNWPKdKyTXh-VvqXDCag@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 02:06:18PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 7:58 AM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 05:24:09PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 03:46:14PM +0200, Krzysztof Adamski wrote:
> > > > Add binding description for the per temperature channel configuration
> > > > like labels and n-factor.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Krzysztof Adamski <krzysztof.adamski@nokia.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/hwmon/tmp421.yaml     | 66 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 66 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > I'd keep this separate...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/tmp421.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/tmp421.yaml
> > > > index 53940e146ee6..56085fdf1b57 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/tmp421.yaml
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/tmp421.yaml
> > > > @@ -24,12 +24,49 @@ properties:
> > > >    reg:
> > > >      maxItems: 1
> > > >
> > > > +  '#address-cells':
> > > > +    const: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  '#size-cells':
> > > > +    const: 0
> > > > +
> > > >  required:
> > > >    - compatible
> > > >    - reg
> > > >
> > > >  additionalProperties: false
> > > >
> > > > +patternProperties:
> > > > +  "^input@([0-4])$":
> > > > +    type: object
> > > > +    description: |
> > > > +      Represents channels of the device and their specific configuration.
> > > > +
> > > > +    properties:
> > > > +      reg:
> > > > +        description: |
> > > > +          The channel number. 0 is local channel, 1-4 are remote channels
> > > > +        items:
> > > > +          minimum: 0
> > > > +          maximum: 4
> > > > +
> > > > +      label:
> > > > +        description: |
> > > > +          A descriptive name for this channel, like "ambient" or "psu".
> > > > +
> > > > +      n-factor:
> > >
> > > ti,n-factor
> >
> > n-factor isn't just supported by TI sensors, though it isn't always called
> > n-factor. Maxim (eg MAX6581) uses the term "ideality factor", though they
> > also refer to the factor as "N" in the datasheet.
> >
> > So question is if we make this ti,n-factor and maxim,n-factor, or if we make
> > it generic and define some kind of generic units. Thoughts ? My personal
> > preference would be a generic definition, but is not a strong preference.
> 
> generic if the units are generic. Though if the register value is
> opaque to s/w, then maybe register value is fine.
> 
> > In regard to units, the n-factor is, as the name says, a factor. Default
> > value is 1.008. The value range for MAX6581 is 0.999 to 1.030. For TMP421
> > it is 0.706542 to 1.747977. So the scondary question is if the value
> > written should be the register value (as proposed here) or the absolute
> > factor (eg in micro-units).
> 
> A range, but the register value can only be 0 or 1?
> 
No, register values are 0x0 .. 0x1f for MAX6581, and 0x0 .. 0xff for TMP421.

> >
> > >
> > > Needs a type reference too.
> > >
> > > > +        description: |
> > > > +          The value (two's complement) to be programmed in the channel specific N correction register.
> > > > +          For remote channels only.
> > > > +        items:
> > > > +          minimum: 0
> > > > +          maximum: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +    required:
> > > > +      - reg
> > > > +
> > > > +    additionalProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > >  examples:
> > > >    - |
> > > >      i2c {
> > > > @@ -41,3 +78,32 @@ examples:
> > > >          reg = <0x4c>;
> > > >        };
> > > >      };
> > > > +  - |
> > > > +    i2c {
> > > > +      #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > +      #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > +
> > > > +      sensor@4c {
> > > > +        compatible = "ti,tmp422";
> > > > +        reg = <0x4c>;
> > > > +        #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > +        #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > +
> > > > +        input@0 {
> > > > +          reg = <0x0>;
> > > > +          n-factor = <0x1>;
> > > > +          label = "local";
> > > > +        };
> >
> > In the context or other sensors, question here is if we can make the
> > bindings generic. We have been discussing this for NCT7802Y. The main
> > question for me is how to handle different sensor types. TMP421 is
> > easy because it only has one type of sensors, but there are other
> > devices which also have, for example, voltage and/or current sensors.
> > NCT7802 is an example for that. We just had a set of bindings for that
> > chip proposed at
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/20210921004627.2786132-1-osk@google.com/
> >
> > Would it be possible to determine a generic scheme that works for all
> > chips ? I can see two problems:
> > - How to express sensor types. The NCT7802 submission proposes another level
> >   of indirection, ie
> >
> >   temperature-sensors {
> > > > +
> > > > +        input@1 {
> > > > +          reg = <0x1>;
> > > > +          n-factor = <0x0>;
> > > > +          label = "somelabel";
> > > > +        };
> > > > +
> > > > +        input@2 {
> > > > +          reg = <0x2>;
> > > > +          status = "disabled";
> > > > +        };
> > > > +      };
> > > > +    };
> >     };
> 
> I think the function should be within the node. Otherwise, the
> addressing becomes weird (e.g. input@3 is under current-sensors or
> something) with seemingly separate address spaces.
> 

Sorry, can you translate that for a DT non-expert ? Or, in other words,
how would / should one express a chip with sets of, say, current-sensors,
voltage sensors, and temperature sensors. Each would have a different
number of channels and different parameters.

> > The second question is how to express sensor index. One option is the solution
> > suggested here, ie to use reg=<> as sensor index. The second is the solution
> > suggested in the 7802 bindings, where the (chip specific) name is used as
> > sensor index.
> >
> > +            temperature-sensors {
> > +                ltd {
> > +                  status = "disabled";
> > +                };
> > +
> > +                rtd1 {
> > +                  status = "okay";
> > +                  type = <4> /* thermistor */;
> 
> 'type' is a bit generic. We don't want the same property name to
> possibly have multiple definitions.
> 
How about sensor-type ?

> > +                };
> > +            };
> >
> > I personally don't have a strong opinion either way, but I would like to see
> > a single solution for all sensor chips.
> >
> > Rob, do you have a preference ?
> 
> If it is how you address an instance of something which seems to be
> the case here, then 'reg' should be used.
> 
Ok.

Thanks,
Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 13:41 [PATCH 0/8] Add per channel properies support in tmp421 Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:42 ` [PATCH 1/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: add missing tmp421 binding Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-20 22:21   ` Rob Herring
2021-09-07 13:42 ` [PATCH 2/8] hwmon: (tmp421) introduce MAX_CHANNELS define Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 3/8] hwmon: (tmp421) introduce a channel struct Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/8] hwmon: (tmp421) add support for defining labels from DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:46   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 17:49     ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 17:55       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 18:08         ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 18:28   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 17:29   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 17:29   ` [RFC PATCH] hwmon: tmp421_probe_child_from_dt() can be static kernel test robot
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 5/8] hwmon: (tmp421) support disabling channels from DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:33   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 13:45 ` [PATCH 6/8] hwmon: (tmp421) support specifying n-factor via DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:42   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 13:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] hwmon: (tmp421) really disable channels Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:37   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 19:52   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 20:40   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 20:40   ` [RFC PATCH] hwmon: tmp421_disable_channels() can be static kernel test robot
2021-09-07 13:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: allow specifying channels for tmp421 Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:46   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 18:04     ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-20 22:24   ` Rob Herring
2021-09-21 12:58     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-21 19:06       ` Rob Herring
2021-09-21 20:52         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2021-09-21 21:21           ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-21 22:03           ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-23 15:30           ` Rob Herring
2021-09-24  0:29             ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-24  7:53               ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-24 11:46                 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-24 15:37                   ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-25 13:26                     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-10-08 12:55                       ` Oskar Senft
2021-10-08 13:11                         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-22  7:22       ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-22 12:39         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-22 18:32           ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-23  0:38             ` Guenter Roeck

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