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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ckeepax@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com, swarren@nvidia.com,
	andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, alcooperx@gmail.com,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] pinctrl: Allow indicating loss of state across suspend/resume
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 16:28:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <952312f9-2c26-58bc-e34f-76ab1fb5f05d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4931157.VlYOOLbas7@aspire.rjw.lan>

On 11/07/2017 04:23 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:00:06 PM CET Tony Lindgren wrote:
>> * Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com> [171104 17:21]:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2017 05:25 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2017 6:33:53 PM CET Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>> * Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com> [171103 17:04]:
>>>>>> On 11/03/2017 09:11 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>> The pinctrl provider is losing its state, hence these two patches.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, the context lost flag should be managed in the PM core for
>>>>>>> the device, so adding linux-pm and Rafael to Cc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it's that simple but sure, why not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just having bool context_lost in struct dev_pm_info would probably
>>>>> be enough to allow drivers to deal with it. This flag could then
>>>>> be set for a device by power domain related code that knows if
>>>>> context got lost.
>>>>
>>>> Something like: if the driver sees "context_lost" set, it should restore
>>>> the context to the device from memory?
>>>
>>> That is what is being proposed here, except that the actual mechanism
>>> where this matters needs to be in the core pinctrl code, otherwise the
>>> state (context) is not restored due to a check that attempts not to
>>> (re)apply a previous state.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But the it would also need to save the context beforehand, so why not to
>>>> restore it unconditionally on resume?
>>>
>>> That's what my original attempts did here:
>>>
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9598969/
>>>
>>> but Linus rightfully requested this to be done differently, hence this
>>> attempt now to solve it in a slightly more flexible way based on DT
>>> properties.
>>
>> For runtime PM, restoring the state constantly is unnecessary and not
>> good for battery life. The logic can be just:
>>
>> 1. Device driver runtime PM suspend saves the state when needed
>>
>> 2. Device driver runtime PM resume checks if context_lost was set by
>>    the bus or power domain code
>>
>> 3. If context was lost, device driver restores the state, or in some
>>    cases may need re-run the driver register init related parts
>>    to bring the driver back up, then clears the context_lost flag
>>
>> How about something like the following patch? So far only compile
>> tested with CONFIG_PM enabled. If that looks like the way to go,
>> I'll test it properly and add some comments for the functions and
>> post a proper patch :)
> 
> Honestly, I'm not sure.
> 
> I'd rather have a context_lost flag to start with and see how/if
> drivers will use that before adding any common infra for handling
> this.

I am afraid we are being slightly side tracked here on this context_loss
flag, because the crux of the problem is not whether a driver knows or
not when it loses state, it's more than the pinctrl core refuses to
re-apply the same state upon resumption even when the consumer driver
tells it to, because it has not seen a transition (consider it as a
stale software cache of the state), and there is only one state defined.

I don't particularly care how its gets solved, at the generic device
driver model or at the pinctrl level, but I think the pinctrl code needs
to change in that regard no matter what we do, because right now, if you
call pinctrl_select_state() in your driver's resume function, and there
is only one state defined, nothing happens, that's a problem.
-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-08  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-02 23:15 [PATCH v2 0/2] pinctrl: Allow indicating loss of state across suspend/resume Florian Fainelli
2017-11-02 23:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] pinctrl: Allow a device to indicate when to force a state Florian Fainelli
     [not found]   ` <20171102231551.16220-2-f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 13:06     ` Linus Walleij
2017-11-29 17:01   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-29 17:35     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-11-29 17:45       ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-29 18:15         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-11-29 18:27           ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-02 23:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] pinctrl: Allow indicating loss of pin states during low-power Florian Fainelli
2017-11-29 13:01   ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]     ` <CACRpkdZtFRB_iy1bDPZ0wkK0jf7pkTGtbZG4gQUJVR+eiO+dhA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 17:02       ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]         ` <20171129170247.GI28152-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 17:37           ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]             ` <96cf5d74-3acf-07b9-9ad8-1011cd99a860-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-02 12:48               ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-10 23:38                 ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                   ` <908c66f9-f9bd-a4df-e241-75595a3a3e27-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-20  7:24                     ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-30 19:31                       ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found] ` <20171102231551.16220-1-f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-03 10:37   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] pinctrl: Allow indicating loss of state across suspend/resume Charles Keepax
2017-11-03 16:11     ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-03 17:02       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-11-03 17:33         ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-04  8:37           ` Charles Keepax
     [not found]             ` <20171104083707.gtmnhbrzlqjulwe4-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-07 16:00               ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]           ` <20171103173353.GJ28152-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-04 12:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-04 17:19               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-11-07 16:00                 ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-08  0:23                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-08  0:28                     ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-11-08  0:45                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-08  1:04                         ` Tony Lindgren
2017-11-08  1:02                     ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <20171103103707.3e5wb3c7foxbuvvg-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-03 17:03       ` Florian Fainelli

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