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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Hou Tao <houtao@huaweicloud.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	houtao1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] blk-ioprio: Introduce promote-to-rt policy
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:12:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230210101244.zsmtmsoo4xjx7suj@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55a065e7-7d86-d58f-15ba-c631a427843e@acm.org>

On Thu 09-02-23 11:09:33, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 2/9/23 00:56, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Wed 08-02-23 09:53:41, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > The test results I shared some time ago show that IOPRIO_CLASS_NONE was the
> > > default I/O priority two years ago (see also https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20210927220328.1410161-5-bvanassche@acm.org/).
> > > The none-to-rt policy increases the priority of bio's that have not been
> > > assigned an I/O priority to RT. Does this answer your question?
> > 
> > Not quite. I know that historically we didn't set bio I/O priority in some
> > paths (but we did set it in other paths such as some (but not all) direct
> > IO implementations). But that was exactly a mess because how none-to-rt
> > actually behaved depended on the exact details of the kernel internal IO
> > path.  So my question is: Was none-to-rt actually just a misnomer and the
> > intended behavior was "always override to RT"? Or what was exactly the
> > expectation around when IO priority is not set and should be overridden?
> > 
> > How should it interact with AIO submissions with IOCB_FLAG_IOPRIO? How
> > should it interact with task having its IO priority modified with
> > ioprio_set(2)? And what if task has its normal scheduling priority modified
> > but that translates into different IO priority (which happens in
> > __get_task_ioprio())?
> > 
> > So I think that none-to-rt is just poorly defined and if we can just get
> > rid of it (or redefine to promote-to-rt), that would be good. But maybe I'm
> > missing some intended usecase...
> 
> Hi Jan,
> 
> We have no plans to use the ioprio_set() system call since it only affects
> foreground I/O and not page cache writeback.
> 
> While Android supports io_uring, there are no plans to support libaio in the
> Android C library (Bionic).
> 
> Regarding __get_task_ioprio(), I haven't found any code in that function
> that derives an I/O priority from the scheduling priority. Did I perhaps
> overlook something?

This condition in __get_task_ioprio():

        if (IOPRIO_PRIO_CLASS(prio) == IOPRIO_CLASS_NONE)
                prio = IOPRIO_PRIO_VALUE(task_nice_ioclass(p),
                                         task_nice_ioprio(p));

sets task's IO priority based on scheduling priority.

> Until recently "none-to-rt" meant "if no I/O priority has been assigned to a
> task, use IOPRIO_CLASS_RT". Promoting the I/O priority to IOPRIO_CLASS_RT
> works for us. I'm fine with changing the meaning of "none-to-rt" into
> promoting the I/O priority class to RT. Introducing "promote-to-rt" as a
> synonym of "none-to-rt" is also fine with me.

OK, so it seems we are all in agreement here that "none-to-rt" behavior is
not really needed. Hou, can you perhaps update your patches and the
documentation to make "none-to-rt" just an alias for "promote-to-rt"?
Thanks!

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01  4:52 [PATCH] blk-ioprio: Introduce promote-to-rt policy Hou Tao
2023-02-01  9:07 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-02-02 10:50   ` Hou Tao
2023-02-01 17:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-02 11:09   ` Hou Tao
2023-02-02 18:05     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-03  1:48       ` Hou Tao
2023-02-03 19:45         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-05  7:04           ` Hou Tao
2023-02-08 13:43           ` Jan Kara
2023-02-08 17:53             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-09  8:56               ` Jan Kara
2023-02-09 19:09                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-10 10:12                   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2023-02-13 12:51                     ` Hou Tao
2023-02-13 17:10                       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-14  8:52                         ` Jan Kara
2023-02-03 19:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-05  7:17   ` Hou Tao

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