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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmerdabbelt@google.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: anup@brainfault.org, Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, corbet@lwn.net, graf@amazon.com,
	Atish Patra <Atish.Patra@wdc.com>,
	Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v18 00/18] KVM RISC-V Support
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 19:21:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff55329c-709d-c1a5-a807-1942f515bba7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-37377fcb-af8f-455c-be08-db1cd5d4b092@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>

On 21/05/21 19:13, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
>> 
> 
> I don't view this code as being in a state where it can be
> maintained, at least to the standards we generally set within the
> kernel.  The ISA extension in question is still subject to change, it
> says so right at the top of the H extension 
> <https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/blob/master/src/hypervisor.tex#L4>
> 
>   {\bf Warning! This draft specification may change before being 
>   accepted as standard by the RISC-V Foundation.}

To give a complete picture, the last three relevant changes have been in
August 2019, November 2019 and May 2020.  It seems pretty frozen to me.

In any case, I think it's clear from the experience with Android that
the acceptance policy cannot succeed.  The only thing that such a policy
guarantees, is that vendors will use more out-of-tree code.  Keeping a
fully-developed feature out-of-tree for years is not how Linux is run.

> I'm not sure where exactly the line for real hardware is, but for
> something like this it would at least involve some chip that is
> widely availiable and needs the H extension to be useful

Anup said that "quite a few people have already implemented RISC-V
H-extension in hardware as well and KVM RISC-V works on real HW as 
well".  Those people would benefit from having KVM in the Linus tree.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-21 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-19  3:35 [PATCH v18 00/18] KVM RISC-V Support Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 01/18] RISC-V: Add hypervisor extension related CSR defines Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 02/18] RISC-V: Add initial skeletal KVM support Anup Patel
2021-05-19  9:24   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-19 10:17   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 03/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement VCPU create, init and destroy functions Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 04/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement VCPU interrupts and requests handling Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 05/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG ioctls Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 06/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement VCPU world-switch Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 07/18] RISC-V: KVM: Handle MMIO exits for VCPU Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 08/18] RISC-V: KVM: Handle WFI " Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 09/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement VMID allocator Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 10/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement stage2 page table programming Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 11/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement MMU notifiers Anup Patel
2021-05-19 10:09   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 12/18] RISC-V: KVM: Add timer functionality Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 13/18] RISC-V: KVM: FP lazy save/restore Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 14/18] RISC-V: KVM: Implement ONE REG interface for FP registers Anup Patel
2021-05-19 10:11   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-20  6:09   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 15/18] RISC-V: KVM: Add SBI v0.1 support Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 16/18] RISC-V: KVM: Document RISC-V specific parts of KVM API Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 17/18] RISC-V: KVM: Move sources to drivers/staging directory Anup Patel
2021-05-19  3:35 ` [PATCH v18 18/18] RISC-V: KVM: Add MAINTAINERS entry Anup Patel
2021-05-19  4:58 ` [PATCH v18 00/18] KVM RISC-V Support Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-19  5:10   ` Anup Patel
2021-05-19  5:21     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-19 10:47       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-19 11:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-19 12:23           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-19 13:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-19 13:58               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-19 15:08                 ` Dan Carpenter
2021-05-19 15:26                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-21 17:13                 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-05-21 17:21                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-05-21 17:47                     ` Greg KH
2021-05-21 18:08                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-05-21 18:25                         ` Greg KH
2021-05-21 20:25                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-24  7:09 ` Guo Ren
2021-05-24 22:57   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-05-24 23:08     ` Damien Le Moal
2021-05-25  7:37       ` Greg KH
2021-05-25  8:01         ` Damien Le Moal
2021-05-25  8:11           ` Greg KH
2021-05-25  8:24             ` Paolo Bonzini

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