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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter Jones <pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Matt Fleming
	<matt-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kweh,
	Hock Leong"
	<hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Sam Protsenko
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	Ming Lei <ming.lei-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ong,
	Boon Leong"
	<boon.leong.ong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] efi: Capsule update with user helper interface
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:26:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXMvDqMvRf2yzRvpjHQB5pip5zNiihAccCc9Sm5UWGysg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150310152155.GB1208-FS9oOTXHwv9t4tGkRPVz9tcb/sdHg95EuydrBrBl+0sAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Peter Jones <pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:26:52PM +0000, Matt Fleming wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Mar, at 04:39:12PM, Peter Jones wrote:
>> >
>> > So again: do we really need or want to do this?
>>
>> One thing that we totally lose the ability to do is use the capsule
>> interface for things *other* than firmware updates, e.g.
>>
>>  https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/16/327
>>
>> Also, requiring embedded or custom OS to include fwupdate into their
>> existing boot solutions is a bit heavy handed when literally all they
>> want to do is cat a binary blob to a sysfs file.
>>
>> I don't see why we can't have both solutions.
>
> Yeah - we clearly need a kernel interface for some embedded devices, and
> it'd be better for every vendor to not implement it themselves.
>
>> Another thing is that ESRT isn't going to be supported by every
>> platform.
>
> Yeah - though I think you're *mostly* talking about the same platforms
> as above.
>
>> So, for the sysfs interface, let's not allow loading from /lib. Let's
>> not require a userland tool. Let's just do,
>>
>>   # echo /path/to/my/awesome/capsule.bin > /sys/../capsule
>
>>
>> and be done with it.
>>
>> Hmmm?
>
> I assume you're implying a) the capsule header with the guid is embedded
> in the .bin there already, and b) one contiguous write(2) with error
> reporting coming through something like vars.c's efi_status_to_err()?
>
> If so, yes, I prefer this API.
>

Is using a char device really so bad?  I have a "simple_char" that
makes this really easy that's pending review.

--Andy

> --
>         Peter



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-10 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8AC95C-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-24 12:49   ` Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] efi: Capsule update with user helper interface Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-02-25 11:47     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]       ` <20150225114747.GC3226-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-25 12:38         ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-02-25 12:49           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-26 15:30       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrVk8GJSzOyRu3Jr-72Tp79XzunGg9T-_70ngTPnG4YZqQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 15:54           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-02 11:24             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]     ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8AC9DD-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 21:39       ` Peter Jones
     [not found]         ` <20150306213912.GA8020-FS9oOTXHwv9t4tGkRPVz9tcb/sdHg95EuydrBrBl+0sAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 21:49           ` Roy Franz
     [not found]             ` <CAFECyb8oD+tjmwaR11PRZ_0K6ddYW5TE9+L1tVnMFE2yHHCg0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 22:17               ` Peter Jones
2015-03-10 12:26           ` Matt Fleming
2015-03-10 15:21             ` Peter Jones
     [not found]               ` <20150310152155.GB1208-FS9oOTXHwv9t4tGkRPVz9tcb/sdHg95EuydrBrBl+0sAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 15:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrXMvDqMvRf2yzRvpjHQB5pip5zNiihAccCc9Sm5UWGysg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 15:40                     ` Peter Jones
2015-03-10 15:51                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-10 17:26                         ` Peter Jones
     [not found]                           ` <20150310172603.GF1208-FS9oOTXHwv9t4tGkRPVz9tcb/sdHg95EuydrBrBl+0sAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 17:31                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrUDuTt_BK1JSFU=_EEujpm1ekzmkte-c3vxuRW7hWPUPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-12 22:47                           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                             ` <20150312224754.GD24174-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 14:42                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-03-16 15:35                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-02 10:59 Kweh, Hock Leong
     [not found] ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8AD9CA-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02 12:29   ` Matt Fleming
2015-03-03  5:56     ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-03-03 20:37       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrXfjbKcYSSRQXZbam7TgHU34LXM0BhvMuba_vYyCCPTig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-03 20:49           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-03 21:56             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-05  9:18           ` Kweh, Hock Leong
     [not found]             ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8AF4F2-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-05 23:08               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrWKwQVe46gASNbb0miwcuHe+wirVSO-pQt6uF-Jd6e-bw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06  8:13                   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-06 11:41                     ` Kweh, Hock Leong
     [not found]                       ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C2B8AF844-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 14:47                         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-06 12:20                   ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2015-03-06 19:05                     ` Andy Lutomirski

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