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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference in inode_permission()
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 00:06:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140110000642.GN10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzd2nw=JU4s0u=PJbATK0bwhm0kot3zRH=anLLT6THRFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 07:53:41AM +0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > but at least from an SELinux PoV, I think it's quick and easy, but wrong
> > for maintainability...
> 
> Yeah, it's a hack, and it's wrong, and we should figure out how to do
> it right. Likely we should just tie the lifetime of the i_security
> member directly to the lifetime of the inode itself, and just make the
> rule be that security_inode_free() gets called from whatever frees the
> inode itself, and *not* have an extra rcu callback etc. But that
> sounds like a bigger change than I'm comfy with right now, so the
> hacky one might be the band-aid to do for stable..
> 
> The problem, of course, is that all the different filesystems have
> their own inode allocations/freeing. Of course, they all tend to share
> the same pattern ("call_rcu xyz_i_callback"), so maybe we could try to
> make that a more generic thing? Like have a "free_inode" vfs callback,
> and do the call_rcu delaying at the VFS level..
> 
> And maybe, just maybe, we could just say that that is what
> "destroy_inode()" is, and that we will just call it from rcu context.
> All the IO has hopefully been done earlier  Yes/no?

Check what XFS is doing ;-/  That's where those call_rcu() have come from.
Sure, we can separate the simple "just do call_rcu(...->free_inode)" case
and hit it whenever full ->free_inode is there and ->destroy_inode isn't.
Not too pretty, but removal of tons of boilerplate might be worth doing
that anyway.  But ->destroy_inode() is still needed for cases where fs
has its own idea of inode lifetime rules.  Again, check what XFS is doing
in that area...

There's an extra source of headache, BTW - what about the "LSM stacking"
crowd and their plans?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-10  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09 21:27 [PATCH] vfs: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference in inode_permission() Steven Rostedt
2014-01-09 21:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-01-09 21:50   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-01-09 22:31     ` Al Viro
     [not found]       ` <CA+55aFzCTPYEQCPnLBi1CwmMTocVqCFiCuJ391HkVx1CMw61ug@mail.gmail.com>
2014-01-09 23:10         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-09 23:25         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-01-09 23:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-01-09 23:37             ` Eric Paris
2014-01-09 23:45               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-01-09 23:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-10  0:06                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-01-10  0:09                   ` Al Viro
2014-01-10  0:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-10  2:36                     ` James Morris
2014-01-10  9:31                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-10 18:14                     ` Ben Myers
2014-01-11 10:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-09 23:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-09 23:59               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-01-10  0:44                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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