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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: mgorman@techsingularity.net, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
	darrick.wong@oracle.com, dchinner@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: ext4: use BUG_ON if writepage call comes from direct reclaim
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 19:43:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180703234331.GA5104@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c305241-d502-b8ea-a187-54c33e4ca692@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:05:04AM -0700, Yang Shi wrote:
> I'm not sure if it is a good choice to let filesystem handle such vital VM
> regression. IMHO, writing out filesystem page from direct reclaim context is
> a vital VM bug. It means something is definitely wrong in VM. It should
> never happen.

If it does happen, it should happen reliably; this isn't the sort of
thing where some linked list had gotten corrupted.  This would be a
structural problem in the VM code.

So presumably, if the WARN_ON triggered, it should be be noticed by VM
developers, and they should fix it.

In general, though, BUG_ON's should be avoided unless there really is
no way to recover.

> It sounds ok to have filesystem throw out warning and handle it, but I'm not
> sure if someone will just ignore the warning, but it should *never* be
> ignored.

If a kernel develper (a VM developer in this case) ignores a warning,
that's just simply professional malpractice.  In general WARN_ON's
should only be used as a sign of a kernel bug.  So they should never
be ignored.

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-03 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03  4:11 [PATCH 1/2] fs: ext4: use BUG_ON if writepage call comes from direct reclaim Yang Shi
2018-07-03  4:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: xfs: " Yang Shi
2018-07-03  4:37   ` Dave Chinner
2018-07-03 17:19   ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-07-03 10:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: ext4: " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-03 17:05   ` Yang Shi
2018-07-03 23:10     ` Yang Shi
2018-07-03 23:43     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-07-04 14:03     ` Michal Hocko

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