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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	"Wangkai (Kevin C)" <wangkai86@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] fs/dcache: Track & limit # of negative dentries
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:16:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180712161644.02dec2142cad842bc8b73a41@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c68aa6ad-9e35-f828-6373-39938fd6e2a7@redhat.com>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:12:28 -0400 Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:

> The rationale beside this patchset comes from a customer request to have
> the ability to track and limit negative dentries. 

Please go back to customer and ask them "why", then let us know.

Could I suggest you stop working on implementation things and instead
work on preparing a comprehensive bug report?  Describe the workload,
describe the system behavior, describe why it is problematic, describe
the preferred behavior, etc.

Once we have that understanding, it might be that we eventually agree
that the problem is unfixable using existing memory management
techniques and that it is indeed appropriate that we add a lot more
code which essentially duplicates kswapd functionality and which
essentially duplicates direct reclaim functionality.  But I sure hope
not.

      reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-06 19:32 [PATCH v6 0/7] fs/dcache: Track & limit # of negative dentries Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] fs/dcache: Track & report number " Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] fs/dcache: Add sysctl parameter neg-dentry-pc as a soft limit on " Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] fs/dcache: Enable automatic pruning of " Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] fs/dcache: Spread negative dentry pruning across multiple CPUs Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] fs/dcache: Add negative dentries to LRU head initially Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] fs/dcache: Allow optional enforcement of negative dentry limit Waiman Long
2018-07-06 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] fs/dcache: Allow deconfiguration of negative dentry code to reduce kernel size Waiman Long
2018-07-06 21:54   ` Eric Biggers
2018-07-06 22:28 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] fs/dcache: Track & limit # of negative dentries Al Viro
2018-07-07  3:02   ` Waiman Long
2018-07-09  8:19 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-09 16:01   ` Waiman Long
2018-07-10 14:27     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-10 16:09       ` Waiman Long
2018-07-11 10:21         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-11 15:13           ` Waiman Long
2018-07-11 17:42             ` James Bottomley
2018-07-11 19:07               ` Waiman Long
2018-07-11 19:21                 ` James Bottomley
2018-07-12 15:54                   ` Waiman Long
2018-07-12 16:04                     ` James Bottomley
2018-07-12 16:26                       ` Waiman Long
2018-07-12 17:33                         ` James Bottomley
2018-07-13 15:32                           ` Waiman Long
2018-07-12 16:49                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-12 17:21                         ` James Bottomley
2018-07-12 18:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-12 19:57                             ` James Bottomley
2018-07-13  0:36                               ` Dave Chinner
2018-07-13 15:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2018-07-13 23:17                                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-07-16  9:10                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 14:42                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-07-16  9:09                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16  9:12                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 12:41                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-16 23:40                                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-17  1:30                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-17  8:33                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19  0:33                                         ` Dave Chinner
2018-07-19  8:45                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19  9:13                                             ` Jan Kara
2018-07-18 18:39                                       ` Waiman Long
2018-07-18 16:17                                   ` Waiman Long
2018-07-19  8:48                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12  8:48             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 16:12               ` Waiman Long
2018-07-12 23:16                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]

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