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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm: introduce page->dma_pinned_flags, _count
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:47:15 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181106024715.GU6311@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5ad7210-05e0-3dc4-02df-01ce5346e198@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 04:26:04PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 11/5/18 1:54 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Hmm, have you tried larger buffer sizes? Because synchronous 8k IO isn't
> > going to max-out NVME iops by far. Can I suggest you install fio [1] (it
> > has the advantage that it is pretty much standard for a test like this so
> > everyone knows what the test does from a glimpse) and run with it something
> > like the following workfile:
> > 
> > [reader]
> > direct=1
> > ioengine=libaio
> > blocksize=4096
> > size=1g
> > numjobs=1
> > rw=read
> > iodepth=64
> > 
> > And see how the numbers with and without your patches compare?
> > 
> > 								Honza
> > 
> > [1] https://github.com/axboe/fio
> 
> That program is *very* good to have. Whew. Anyway, it looks like read bandwidth 
> is approximately 74 MiB/s with my patch (it varies a bit, run to run),
> as compared to around 85 without the patch, so still showing about a 20%
> performance degradation, assuming I'm reading this correctly.
> 
> Raw data follows, using the fio options you listed above:
> 
> Baseline (without my patch):
> ---------------------------- 
....
>      lat (usec): min=179, max=14003, avg=2913.65, stdev=1241.75
>     clat percentiles (usec):
>      |  1.00th=[ 2311],  5.00th=[ 2343], 10.00th=[ 2343], 20.00th=[ 2343],
>      | 30.00th=[ 2343], 40.00th=[ 2376], 50.00th=[ 2376], 60.00th=[ 2376],
>      | 70.00th=[ 2409], 80.00th=[ 2933], 90.00th=[ 4359], 95.00th=[ 5276],
>      | 99.00th=[ 8291], 99.50th=[ 9110], 99.90th=[10945], 99.95th=[11469],
>      | 99.99th=[12256]
.....
> Modified (with my patch):
> ---------------------------- 
.....
>      lat (usec): min=81, max=15766, avg=3496.57, stdev=1450.21
>     clat percentiles (usec):
>      |  1.00th=[ 2835],  5.00th=[ 2835], 10.00th=[ 2835], 20.00th=[ 2868],
>      | 30.00th=[ 2868], 40.00th=[ 2868], 50.00th=[ 2868], 60.00th=[ 2900],
>      | 70.00th=[ 2933], 80.00th=[ 3425], 90.00th=[ 5080], 95.00th=[ 6259],
>      | 99.00th=[10159], 99.50th=[11076], 99.90th=[12649], 99.95th=[13435],
>      | 99.99th=[14484]

So it's adding at least 500us of completion latency to every IO?
I'd argue that the IO latency impact is far worse than the a 20%
throughput drop.

i.e. You can make up for throughput drops by running a deeper
queue/more dispatch threads, but you can't reduce IO latency at
all...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-12  6:00 [PATCH 0/6] RFC: gup+dma: tracking dma-pinned pages john.hubbard
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: get_user_pages: consolidate error handling john.hubbard
2018-10-12  6:30   ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-12 22:45     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions john.hubbard
2018-10-12  7:35   ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-12 22:31     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] infiniband/mm: convert put_page() to put_user_page*() john.hubbard
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: introduce page->dma_pinned_flags, _count john.hubbard
2018-10-12 10:56   ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-13  0:15     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-24 11:00       ` Balbir Singh
2018-11-02 23:27         ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13  3:55   ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-13  7:34     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13 16:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-13 21:19         ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05  7:10         ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05  9:54           ` Jan Kara
2018-11-06  0:26             ` John Hubbard
2018-11-06  2:47               ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-11-06 11:00                 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-06 20:41                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-07  6:36                     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13 23:01       ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-16  8:51         ` Jan Kara
2018-10-17  1:48           ` John Hubbard
2018-10-17 11:09             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-18  0:03               ` John Hubbard
2018-10-19  8:11                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: introduce zone_gup_lock, for dma-pinned pages john.hubbard
2018-10-12  6:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: track gup pages with page->dma_pinned_* fields john.hubbard
2018-10-12 11:07   ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-13  0:33     ` John Hubbard

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