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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: allocate sector sized IO buffer via page_frag_alloc
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:50:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190227015054.GC16802@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190226204550.GK23020@dastard>

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 07:45:50AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 05:33:04PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 03:58:26PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 07:27:37PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 02:02:14PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > > > Or what is the exact size of sub-page IO in xfs most of time? For
> > > > > 
> > > > > Determined by mkfs parameters. Any power of 2 between 512 bytes and
> > > > > 64kB needs to be supported. e.g:
> > > > > 
> > > > > # mkfs.xfs -s size=512 -b size=1k -i size=2k -n size=8k ....
> > > > > 
> > > > > will have metadata that is sector sized (512 bytes), filesystem
> > > > > block sized (1k), directory block sized (8k) and inode cluster sized
> > > > > (32k), and will use all of them in large quantities.
> > > > 
> > > > If XFS is going to use each of these in large quantities, then it doesn't
> > > > seem unreasonable for XFS to create a slab for each type of metadata?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Well, that is the question, isn't it? How many other filesystems
> > > will want to make similar "don't use entire pages just for 4k of
> > > metadata" optimisations as 64k page size machines become more
> > > common? There are others that have the same "use slab for sector
> > > aligned IO" which will fall foul of the same problem that has been
> > > reported for XFS....
> > > 
> > > If nobody else cares/wants it, then it can be XFS only. But it's
> > > only fair we address the "will it be useful to others" question
> > > first.....
> > 
> > This kind of slab cache should have been global, just like interface of
> > kmalloc(size).
> > 
> > However, the alignment requirement depends on block device's block size,
> > then it becomes hard to implement as genera interface, for example:
> > 
> > 	block size: 512, 1024, 2048, 4096
> > 	slab size: 512*N, 0 < N < PAGE_SIZE/512
> > 
> > For 4k page size, 28(7*4) slabs need to be created, and 64k page size
> > needs to create 127*4 slabs.
> 
> IDGI. Where's the 7/127 come from?
> 
> We only require sector alignment at most, so as long as each slab
> object is aligned to it's size, we only need one slab for each block
> size.

Each slab has fixed size, I remembered that you mentioned that the meta
data size can be 512 * N (1 <= N <= PAGE_SIZE / 512).

https://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=155115014513355&w=2


Thanks, 
Ming

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-27  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-25  4:09 [PATCH] xfs: allocate sector sized IO buffer via page_frag_alloc Ming Lei
2019-02-25  4:36 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-25  8:46   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-25 10:03     ` Ming Lei
2019-02-25 20:11     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-25 13:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-25 20:26     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  2:22       ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26  3:02         ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  3:27           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26  4:58             ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  9:33               ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 10:06                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-26 11:12                   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 12:12                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 12:35                       ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 13:02                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 13:42                           ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 14:04                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 16:14                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-02-26 16:19                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-27  1:41                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-27  7:07                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-08  8:18                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-27 21:38                                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26 15:30                             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-26 20:45                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-27  1:50                   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2019-02-27  3:41                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26 15:20     ` Christopher Lameter

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