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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm, sl[aou]b: guarantee natural alignment for kmalloc(power-of-two)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:32:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190930093233.jlypzgmkf4pplgso@box.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190930092334.GA25306@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:23:34AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 23-09-19 18:36:32, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > On 8/26/19 1:16 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > In most configurations, kmalloc() happens to return naturally aligned (i.e.
> > > aligned to the block size itself) blocks for power of two sizes. That means
> > > some kmalloc() users might unknowingly rely on that alignment, until stuff
> > > breaks when the kernel is built with e.g.  CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG or CONFIG_SLOB,
> > > and blocks stop being aligned. Then developers have to devise workaround such
> > > as own kmem caches with specified alignment [1], which is not always practical,
> > > as recently evidenced in [2].
> > > 
> > > The topic has been discussed at LSF/MM 2019 [3]. Adding a 'kmalloc_aligned()'
> > > variant would not help with code unknowingly relying on the implicit alignment.
> > > For slab implementations it would either require creating more kmalloc caches,
> > > or allocate a larger size and only give back part of it. That would be
> > > wasteful, especially with a generic alignment parameter (in contrast with a
> > > fixed alignment to size).
> > > 
> > > Ideally we should provide to mm users what they need without difficult
> > > workarounds or own reimplementations, so let's make the kmalloc() alignment to
> > > size explicitly guaranteed for power-of-two sizes under all configurations.
> > > What this means for the three available allocators?
> > > 
> > > * SLAB object layout happens to be mostly unchanged by the patch. The
> > >   implicitly provided alignment could be compromised with CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB due
> > >   to redzoning, however SLAB disables redzoning for caches with alignment
> > >   larger than unsigned long long. Practically on at least x86 this includes
> > >   kmalloc caches as they use cache line alignment, which is larger than that.
> > >   Still, this patch ensures alignment on all arches and cache sizes.
> > > 
> > > * SLUB layout is also unchanged unless redzoning is enabled through
> > >   CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG and boot parameter for the particular kmalloc cache. With
> > >   this patch, explicit alignment is guaranteed with redzoning as well. This
> > >   will result in more memory being wasted, but that should be acceptable in a
> > >   debugging scenario.
> > > 
> > > * SLOB has no implicit alignment so this patch adds it explicitly for
> > >   kmalloc(). The potential downside is increased fragmentation. While
> > >   pathological allocation scenarios are certainly possible, in my testing,
> > >   after booting a x86_64 kernel+userspace with virtme, around 16MB memory
> > >   was consumed by slab pages both before and after the patch, with difference
> > >   in the noise.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/c3157c8e8e0e7588312b40c853f65c02fe6c957a.1566399731.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr/
> > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20190225040904.5557-1-ming.lei@redhat.com/
> > > [3] https://lwn.net/Articles/787740/
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > 
> > So if anyone thinks this is a good idea, please express it (preferably
> > in a formal way such as Acked-by), otherwise it seems the patch will be
> > dropped (due to a private NACK, apparently).
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> An existing code to workaround the lack of alignment guarantee just show
> that this is necessary. And there wasn't any real technical argument
> against except for a highly theoretical optimizations/new allocator that
> would be tight by the guarantee.
> 
> Therefore
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Agreed.

Acked-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-30  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 11:16 [PATCH v2 0/2] guarantee natural alignment for kmalloc() Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-26 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm, sl[ou]b: improve memory accounting Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-26 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm, sl[aou]b: guarantee natural alignment for kmalloc(power-of-two) Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-28 18:45   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-08-28 19:46     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-08-28 22:24       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-29  7:56         ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-30  0:29           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-29  7:39       ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-30 17:41         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-01  0:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-03 20:13             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-03 20:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-04  5:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04  6:40                   ` Ming Lei
2019-09-04  7:20                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-04 19:31                 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-23 16:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-23 17:17     ` David Sterba
2019-09-23 17:51       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-09-24 20:47         ` cl
2019-09-24 20:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-24 20:55             ` cl
2019-09-26 13:02               ` David Sterba
2019-09-24 21:19         ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-24 21:53           ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-24 22:21             ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-09-24 20:52       ` cl
2019-09-24 23:54         ` Andrew Morton
2019-09-25  7:17           ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-26  0:16             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-26  0:14           ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-26  7:41             ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-28  1:12               ` Christopher Lameter
2019-09-30 13:32                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-23 17:54     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-09-30  8:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-30  9:23     ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-30  9:32       ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2019-09-23 18:57   ` Matthew Wilcox

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