From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
raven@themaw.net, Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
casey@schaufler-ca.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/10] Mount, FS, Block and Keyrings notifications [ver #3]
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 11:33:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7afe1a85-bf19-b5b4-fdf3-69d9be475dab@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWn_C8oReKXGMXiJDOGoYWMs+jg2DWa5ZipKAceyXkx5w@mail.gmail.com>
On 6/6/2019 10:11 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:43 AM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> I don't agree. That is, I don't believe it is sufficient.
>> There is no guarantee that being able to set a watch on an
>> object implies that every process that can trigger the event
>> can send it to you.
>>
>> Watcher has Smack label W
>> Triggerer has Smack label T
>> Watched object has Smack label O
>>
>> Relevant Smack rules are
>>
>> W O rw
>> T O rw
>>
>> The watcher will be able to set the watch,
>> the triggerer will be able to trigger the event,
>> but there is nothing that would allow the watcher
>> to receive the event. This is not a case of watcher
>> reading the watched object, as the event is delivered
>> without any action by watcher.
> I think this is an example of a bogus policy that should not be
> supported by the kernel.
At this point it's pretty hard for me to care much what
you think. You don't seem to have any insight into the
implications of the features you're advocating, or their
potential consequences.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-06 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-06 9:41 [RFC][PATCH 00/10] Mount, FS, Block and Keyrings notifications [ver #3] David Howells
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 01/10] security: Override creds in __fput() with last fputter's creds " David Howells
2019-06-06 14:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 15:06 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 17:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 19:09 ` Casey Schaufler
2019-06-06 19:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 02/10] General notification queue with user mmap()'able ring buffer " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 03/10] keys: Add a notification facility " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 04/10] vfs: Add a mount-notification " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 05/10] vfs: Add superblock notifications " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:42 ` [PATCH 06/10] fsinfo: Export superblock notification counter " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:43 ` [PATCH 07/10] Add a general, global device notification watch list " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:43 ` [PATCH 08/10] block: Add block layer notifications " David Howells
2019-06-06 9:43 ` [PATCH 09/10] usb: Add USB subsystem " David Howells
2019-06-06 14:24 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-06 14:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-06 14:55 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-06 15:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-07 6:40 ` Felipe Balbi
2019-06-07 14:01 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-11 6:28 ` Felipe Balbi
2019-06-11 13:53 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-12 6:58 ` Felipe Balbi
2019-06-06 9:43 ` [PATCH 10/10] Add sample notification program " David Howells
2019-06-06 21:21 ` Eugeniu Rosca
2019-06-06 22:52 ` David Howells
2019-06-07 14:37 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 12:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/10] Mount, FS, Block and Keyrings notifications " Stephen Smalley
2019-06-06 13:16 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 14:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-06 16:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2019-06-06 17:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 18:33 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2019-06-06 18:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 17:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-06 18:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2019-06-06 19:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 21:17 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 21:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 22:38 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 22:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 22:50 ` David Howells
2019-06-06 14:34 ` Christian Brauner
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