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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/32] VFS: Introduce filesystem context [ver #8]
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:18:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in6kptqt.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <152720672288.9073.9868393448836301272.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (David Howells's message of "Fri, 25 May 2018 01:05:23 +0100")

David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> writes:

> Here are a set of patches to create a filesystem context prior to setting
> up a new mount, populating it with the parsed options/binary data, creating
> the superblock and then effecting the mount.  This is also used for remount
> since much of the parsing stuff is common in many filesystems.

Dave,
I have read through these patches and I noticed a significant issue.

Today in mount_bdev we do something that looks like:

mount_bdev(...)
{
	s = sget(..., bdev);
	if (s->s_root) {
        	/* Noop */
        } else {
        	err = fill_super(s, ...);
                if (err) {
                	deactivate_locked_super(s);
                        return ERR_PTR(err);
                }
                s->s_flags |= SB_ATTIVE;
                bdev->bd_super = s;
        }
        return dget(s->s_root);
}

The key point is that we don't process the mount options at all if
a super block already exists in the kernel.  Similar to what
your fscontext changes are doing (after parsing the options).

Your fscontext changes do not improve upon this area of the mount api at
all and that concerns me.  This is an area where people can and already
do shoot themselves in their feet.

The real world security issue we had in with this involved devpts.  The
devpts filesystem requires the mode and gid parameters for new ttys to
be specified to be posix compliant.  People were setting up chroot
environments and mounting devpts with the wrong arguments.  As these two
devpts mounts shared a super block a change of arguments on one was a
change of arguments on the other.  Which mean the chroots were
periodically breaking the primary devpts and causing new terminals to be
opened with essentially unusable permissions.  Fun when you are trying
to ssh in to a box.

Creating a new mount and finding an old mount are the same operation in
the kernel today.  This is fundamentally confusing.  In the new api
could we please separate these two operations?

Perhaps someting like:
x create
x find

With the "x create" case failing if the filesystem already exists,
still allowing "x find"?  And with the "x find" case failing if
the superblock is not already created in the kernel.

That should make it clear to a userspace program what is going on
and give it a chance to mount a filesystem anyway.



In a similar vein could we please clarify the rules for changing mount
options for an existing superblock are in the new api?

Today mount assumes that it has to provide all of the existing options
to reconfigure a mount.  What people want to do and what most
filesystems support is just specifying the options that need to be
changed.  Can we please make this the rule of how this are expected
to work for fscontext?  That only changing mount options need to
be specified before: "x reconfigure"

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15  4:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-25  0:05 [PATCH 00/32] VFS: Introduce filesystem context [ver #8] David Howells
2018-05-25  0:05 ` [PATCH 01/32] VFS: Suppress MS_* flag defs within the kernel unless explicitly enabled " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:05 ` [PATCH 02/32] vfs: Provide documentation for new mount API " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:05 ` [PATCH 03/32] VFS: Introduce the basic header for the new mount API's filesystem context " David Howells
2018-05-31 23:11   ` Al Viro
2018-05-31 23:13   ` Al Viro
2018-05-25  0:05 ` [PATCH 04/32] VFS: Add LSM hooks for the new mount API " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:05 ` [PATCH 05/32] selinux: Implement the new mount API LSM hooks " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 06/32] smack: Implement filesystem context security " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 07/32] apparmor: Implement security hooks for the new mount API " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 08/32] tomoyo: " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 09/32] VFS: Require specification of size of mount data for internal mounts " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 10/32] VFS: Implement a filesystem superblock creation/configuration context " David Howells
2018-06-07 19:50   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-07-03 18:33   ` Eric Biggers
2018-07-03 21:53   ` David Howells
2018-07-03 21:58     ` Al Viro
2018-07-03 22:06     ` David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 11/32] VFS: Remove unused code after filesystem context changes " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 12/32] procfs: Move proc_fill_super() to fs/proc/root.c " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 13/32] proc: Add fs_context support to procfs " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:06 ` [PATCH 14/32] ipc: Convert mqueue fs to fs_context " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 15/32] cpuset: Use " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 16/32] kernfs, sysfs, cgroup, intel_rdt: Support " David Howells
2018-06-21 18:47   ` [16/32] " Andrei Vagin
2018-06-22 12:52   ` David Howells
2018-06-22 15:30     ` Andrei Vagin
2018-06-22 16:57       ` Andrei Vagin
2018-06-23 23:34       ` David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 17/32] hugetlbfs: Convert to " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 18/32] VFS: Remove kern_mount_data() " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 19/32] VFS: Implement fsopen() to prepare for a mount " David Howells
2018-05-31 21:25   ` Al Viro
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 20/32] vfs: Make close() unmount the attached mount if so flagged " David Howells
2018-05-31 19:19   ` Al Viro
2018-05-31 19:26     ` Al Viro
2018-06-01  1:52     ` Al Viro
2018-06-01  3:18       ` Al Viro
2018-06-01  5:16         ` Al Viro
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 21/32] VFS: Implement fsmount() to effect a pre-configured mount " David Howells
2018-06-04 15:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-06-04 15:24   ` David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 22/32] vfs: Provide an fspick() system call " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 23/32] VFS: Implement logging through fs_context " David Howells
2018-05-25  1:48   ` Joe Perches
2018-05-25  0:07 ` [PATCH 24/32] vfs: Add some logging to the core users of the fs_context log " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 25/32] afs: Add fs_context support " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 26/32] afs: Use fs_context to pass parameters over automount " David Howells
2018-06-07  1:58   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2018-06-07 20:45   ` David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 27/32] vfs: Use a 'struct fd_cookie *' type for light fd handling " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 28/32] vfs: Store the fd_cookie in nameidata, not the dfd int " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 29/32] vfs: Don't mix FMODE_* flags with O_* flags " David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 30/32] vfs: Allow cloning of a mount tree with open(O_PATH|O_CLONE_MOUNT) " David Howells
2018-06-01  6:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-01  6:39     ` Al Viro
2018-06-01  8:27     ` David Howells
2018-06-02  3:09       ` Al Viro
2018-06-02  3:42         ` Al Viro
2018-06-02  4:04           ` Al Viro
2018-06-02 15:45           ` David Howells
2018-06-02 17:49             ` Al Viro
2018-06-03  0:55               ` [PATCH][RFC] open_tree(2) (was Re: [PATCH 30/32] vfs: Allow cloning of a mount tree with open(O_PATH|O_CLONE_MOUNT) [ver #8]) Al Viro
2018-06-04 10:34                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-06-04 15:52                   ` Al Viro
2018-06-04 15:59                     ` Al Viro
2018-06-04 19:27                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-06-04 15:27                 ` David Howells
2018-06-04 17:16                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-06-04 17:35                   ` Al Viro
2018-06-04 19:38                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-06-01  8:02   ` [PATCH 30/32] vfs: Allow cloning of a mount tree with open(O_PATH|O_CLONE_MOUNT) [ver #8] Amir Goldstein
2018-06-01  8:42   ` David Howells
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 31/32] [RFC] fs: Add a move_mount() system call " David Howells
2018-05-31 21:20   ` Al Viro
2018-05-25  0:08 ` [PATCH 32/32] [RFC] fsinfo: Add a system call to allow querying of filesystem information " David Howells
2018-06-04 13:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-06-04 15:01   ` David Howells
2018-06-04 16:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-06-04 19:03     ` David Howells
2018-06-04 20:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-05-31 20:56 ` Test program for move_mount() David Howells
2018-05-31 20:57 ` fsinfo test program David Howells
2018-06-15  4:18 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-06-18 20:30 ` [PATCH 00/32] VFS: Introduce filesystem context [ver #8] David Howells
2018-06-18 21:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-18 23:33   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o

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