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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Marchevsky <davemarchevsky@fb.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Seth Forshee <sforshee@digitalocean.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fuse: allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in root userns to access allow_other mount
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegtNKbOzu0F=-k_ovxrAOYsOBk91e3v6GPgpfYYjsAM5xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220518112229.s5nalbyd523nxxru@wittgenstein>

On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 13:22, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 12:50:32PM -0400, Dave Marchevsky wrote:

> > Sorry to ressurect this old thread. My proposed alternate approach of "special
> > ioctl to grant exception to descendant userns check" proved unnecessarily
> > complex: ioctls also go through fuse_allow_current_process check, so a special
> > carve-out would be necessary for in both ioctl and fuse_permission check in
> > order to make it possible for non-descendant-userns user to opt in to exception.
> >
> > How about a version of this patch with CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH check? This way
> > there's more of a clear opt-in vs CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
>
> I still think this isn't needed given that especially for the use-cases
> listed here you have a workable userspace solution to this problem.
>
> If the CAP_SYS_ADMIN/CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH check were really just about
> giving a privileged task access then it'd be fine imho. But given that
> this means the privileged task is open to a DoS attack it seems we're
> building a trap into the fuse code.
>
> The setns() model has the advantage that this forces the task to assume
> the correct privileges and also serves as an explicit opt-in. Just my 2
> cents here.

Fully agreed.  Using CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH instead of CAP_SYS_ADMIN
doesn't make this any better, since root has all caps including
CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-18 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-11 22:11 [PATCH] fuse: allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in root userns to access allow_other mount Dave Marchevsky
2021-11-12  2:10 ` Rik van Riel
2021-11-12 10:13 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-12 23:29   ` Dave Marchevsky
2021-11-15 15:28     ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-17 16:50       ` Dave Marchevsky
2022-05-18 11:22         ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-18 11:26           ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2022-05-19  4:56             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-05-19  8:59               ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-24  4:35                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-05-24  7:07                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-24 14:59                     ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-24 15:44                     ` Christian Brauner

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