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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dharmendra Singh <dsingh@ddn.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] fuse uring communication
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:35:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjXZHr3DZUQVvcTisRy+HYNWSRWvzKDXuHP0w==QR8Yog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230321011047.3425786-1-bschubert@ddn.com>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 3:11 AM Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com> wrote:
>
> This adds support for uring communication between kernel and
> userspace daemon using opcode the IORING_OP_URING_CMD. The basic
> appraoch was taken from ublk.  The patches are in RFC state -
> I'm not sure about all decisions and some questions are marked
> with XXX.
>
> Userspace side has to send IOCTL(s) to configure ring queue(s)
> and it has the choice to configure exactly one ring or one
> ring per core. If there are use case we can also consider
> to allow a different number of rings - the ioctl configuration
> option is rather generic (number of queues).
>
> Right now a queue lock is taken for any ring entry state change,
> mostly to correctly handle unmount/daemon-stop. In fact,
> correctly stopping the ring took most of the development
> time - always new corner cases came up.
> I had run dozens of xfstest cycles,
> versions I had once seen a warning about the ring start_stop
> mutex being the wrong state - probably another stop issue,
> but I have not been able to track it down yet.
> Regarding the queue lock - I still need to do profiling, but
> my assumption is that it should not matter for the
> one-ring-per-core configuration. For the single ring config
> option lock contention might come up, but I see this
> configuration mostly for development only.
> Adding more complexity and protecting ring entries with
> their own locks can be done later.
>
> Current code also keep the fuse request allocation, initially
> I only had that for background requests when the ring queue
> didn't have free entries anymore. The allocation is done
> to reduce initial complexity, especially also for ring stop.
> The allocation free mode can be added back later.
>
> Right now always the ring queue of the submitting core
> is used, especially for page cached background requests
> we might consider later to also enqueue on other core queues
> (when these are not busy, of course).
>
> Splice/zero-copy is not supported yet, all requests go
> through the shared memory queue entry buffer. I also
> following splice and ublk/zc copy discussions, I will
> look into these options in the next days/weeks.
> To have that buffer allocated on the right numa node,
> a vmalloc is done per ring queue and on the numa node
> userspace daemon side asks for.
> My assumption is that the mmap offset parameter will be
> part of a debate and I'm curious what other think about
> that appraoch.
>
> Benchmarking and tuning is on my agenda for the next
> days. For now I only have xfstest results - most longer
> running tests were running at about 2x, but somehow when
> I cleaned up the patches for submission I lost that.
> My development VM/kernel has all sanitizers enabled -
> hard to profile what happened. Performance
> results with profiling will be submitted in a few days.

When posting those benchmarks and with future RFC posting,
it's would be useful for people reading this introduction for the
first time, to explicitly state the motivation of your work, which
can only be inferred from the mention of "benchmarks".

I think it would also be useful to link to prior work (ZUFS, fuse2)
and mention the current FUSE performance issues related to
context switches and cache line bouncing that was discussed in
those threads.

Thanks,
Amir.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-21  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-21  1:10 [RFC PATCH 00/13] fuse uring communication Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 01/13] fuse: Add uring data structures and documentation Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 02/13] fuse: rename to fuse_dev_end_requests and make non-static Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 03/13] fuse: Move fuse_get_dev to header file Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 04/13] Add a vmalloc_node_user function Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21 21:21   ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 05/13] fuse: Add a uring config ioctl and ring destruction Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 06/13] fuse: Add an interval ring stop worker/monitor Bernd Schubert
2023-03-23 10:27   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-03-23 11:04     ` Bernd Schubert
2023-03-23 12:35       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-03-23 13:18         ` Bernd Schubert
2023-03-23 20:51           ` Bernd Schubert
2023-03-27 13:22             ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-03-27 14:02               ` Bernd Schubert
2023-03-23 13:26         ` Ming Lei
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 07/13] fuse: Add uring mmap method Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 08/13] fuse: Move request bits Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 09/13] fuse: Add wait stop ioctl support to the ring Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 10/13] fuse: Handle SQEs - register commands Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 11/13] fuse: Add support to copy from/to the ring buffer Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 12/13] fuse: Add uring sqe commit and fetch support Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:10 ` [PATCH 13/13] fuse: Allow to queue to the ring Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  1:26 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] fuse uring communication Bernd Schubert
2023-03-21  9:35 ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2023-03-23 11:18   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-03-23 11:55     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-07 14:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-08 21:31         ` Bernd Schubert

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