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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 12:34:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e43a2700-8625-e136-dc9d-d0d2da5d96ac@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0adcde2-3106-4fea-c047-4d17111bab70@kernel.dk>

On 12/11/19 10:56 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> But I think most of the regular IO call chains come through
>> "mark_page_accessed()". So _that_ is the part you want to avoid (and
>> maybe the workingset code). And that should be fairly straightforward,
>> I think.
> 
> Sure, I can give that a go and see how that behaves.

Before doing that, I ran a streamed read test instead of just random
reads, and the behavior is roughly the same. kswapd consumes a bit less
CPU, but it's still very active once the page cache has been filled. For
specifics on the setup, I deliberately boot the box with 32G of RAM, and
the dataset is 320G. My initial tests were with 1 320G file, but
Johannes complained about that so I went to 32 10G files instead. That's
what I'm currently using.

For the random test case, top of profile for kswapd is:

+   33.49%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] xas_create                          ◆
+    7.93%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] __isolate_lru_page                  ▒
+    7.18%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] unlock_page                         ▒
+    5.90%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] free_pcppages_bulk                  ▒
+    5.64%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave              ▒
+    5.57%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] shrink_page_list                    ▒
+    3.48%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] __remove_mapping                    ▒
+    3.35%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] isolate_lru_pages                   ▒
+    3.14%  kswapd0  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] __delete_from_page_cache            ▒

Next I ran with NOT calling mark_page_accessed() to see if that makes a
difference. See patch below, I just applied this on top of this patchset
and added a new RWF_NOACCESS flag for it for ease of teting. I verified
that we are indeed skipping the mark_page_accessed() call in
generic_file_buffered_read().

I can't tell a difference in the results, there's no discernable
difference between NOT calling mark_page_accessed() or calling it.
Behavior seems about the same, in terms of pre and post page cache full,
and kswapd still churns a lot once the page cache is filled up.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-11 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-11 15:29 [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/5] fs: add read support " Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: make generic_perform_write() take a struct kiocb Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: make buffered writes work with RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 4/5] iomap: pass in the write_begin/write_end flags to iomap_actor Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 5/5] iomap: support RWF_UNCACHED for buffered writes Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:19   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-11 18:05     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:34   ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-13  0:54     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-13  0:57       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-16  4:17         ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-17 14:31           ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  0:49             ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-18  1:01               ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:37 ` [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 17:56   ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 19:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 19:34     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2019-12-11 20:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 20:08         ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 20:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 21:04             ` Johannes Weiner
2019-12-12  1:30               ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 23:41             ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  1:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12  1:11                 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  1:22                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12  1:29                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  1:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12  1:56                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12  2:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 17:52                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 18:29                               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 20:05                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12  1:41                       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  1:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12  1:09               ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  2:03                 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  2:10                   ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12  2:21                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12  2:38                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:18                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-13  1:32                   ` Chris Mason
2020-01-07 17:42                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 14:09                       ` Chris Mason
2020-02-01 10:33                     ` Andres Freund
2019-12-11 20:43           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-11 20:04       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 10:44 ` Martin Steigerwald
2019-12-12 15:16   ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 21:45     ` Martin Steigerwald
2019-12-12 22:15       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:18     ` Linus Torvalds

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