From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:12:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xsgvt2h7h.fsf@mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj3v41CWH+3ry3+vrkjAEcyGojtevpsZDbiXVvpv1nTkA@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:45:27 -0700")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:34 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>>
>> The main historic use case I've heard of was running Netscape
>> Navigator on Alpha Linux, before there was an open source version.
>> Doing this today to connect to the open internet is probably
>> a bit pointless, but there may be other use cases.
>
> The _really_ main version was that I decided to make my life easier
> for the initial alpha port by trying to run basic (tested) OSF/1
> binaries directly.
>
> Netscape may have been one of the binaries people actually ended up
> using, but it's probably not a reason any more, since the internet has
> moved past that anyway.
>
>> Looking at the system call table in the kernel
>> (arch/alpha/kernel/syscalls/syscall.tbl), we seem to support a
>> specific subset that was required for a set of applications, and
>> not much more.
>
> Yeah, it never supported arbitrary binaries, particularly since
> there's often lots of other issues too with running things like that
> (ie filesystem layout etc). It worked for normal fairly well behaved
> stuff, but wasn't ever a full OSF/1 emulation environment.
>
> I _suspect_ nobody actually runs any OSF/1 binaries any more, but it
> would obviously be good to verify that. Your argument that timeval
> handling was broken _may_ be an indication of that (or may just mean
> very few apps care).
Does it count if I fire up an Alpha and run a few OSF/1 binaries right
now? :-)
--
Måns Rullgård
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-11 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-01 23:57 a.out coredumping: fix or delete? Jann Horn
2019-03-03 1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-05 9:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-05 12:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-05 13:43 ` Alan Cox
2019-03-05 14:59 ` [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support Borislav Petkov
2019-03-05 15:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-03-05 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05 16:30 ` Jann Horn
2019-03-05 17:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-05 17:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-05 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05 18:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-05 18:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-06 15:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-10 21:37 ` Matt Turner
2019-03-10 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-10 23:19 ` Al Viro
2019-03-11 7:20 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2019-03-11 11:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-03-11 16:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-11 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-11 18:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-11 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-11 19:47 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-11 20:50 ` Matt Turner
2019-03-11 21:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-03-11 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-11 22:12 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2019-03-12 8:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-14 18:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-03-11 22:06 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-11 22:11 ` Matt Turner
2019-03-12 6:38 ` Michael Cree
2019-04-16 3:19 ` Jon Masters
2019-03-11 18:58 ` Matt Turner
2019-03-06 16:55 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-03-06 17:52 ` [PATCH] fs: binfmt: mark aout as broken Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-03-06 12:25 ` a.out coredumping: fix or delete? Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-06 14:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-03-06 16:52 ` Alan Cox
2019-03-06 17:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
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