From: Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Alexandru Ardelean <ardeleanalex@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
knaack.h@gmx.de, lars@metafoo.de,
Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iio: core: Improve precision of __iio_format_value for FRACTIONAL values
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 13:47:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b677dff8-11f5-abcd-6277-21490ce95a3b@electromag.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190131133517.0000716d@huawei.com>
On 31/01/2019 9:35 pm, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:11:25 +0800
> Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au> wrote:
>
>> G'day Alex,
>>
>> On 29/01/2019 4:32 pm, Alexandru Ardelean wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 8:28 AM Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Currently FRACTIONAL values are outputed with 9 digits after the decimal
>>>> place. This is not always sufficient to resolve the raw value with 1 bit.
>>>> Output FRACTIONAL values to 15 decimal places of precision, regardless
>>>> of the number of leading zeros.
>>>>
>>>> Currently for a 2.5V ref with 24 bits of precision the code outputs only
>>>> to 9 decimal places.
>>>>
>>>> Cur: 0.00014901100000000000 * 16777216 = 2499.989733
>>>> New: 0.00014901161193847600 * 16777216 = 2500.000000
>>>> Signed-off-by: Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> Alternatively I could add additonal FRACTIONAL types that select the new
>>>> behaviour to prevent any possible regressions.
>>>>
>>>> drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>>> 1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c b/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
>>>> index a062cfd..bd9da64 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
>>>> @@ -571,11 +571,53 @@ int of_iio_read_mount_matrix(const struct device *dev,
>>>> #endif
>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL(of_iio_read_mount_matrix);
>>>>
>>>> +static ssize_t __iio_format_div_prec(char *buf, unsigned int len, s64 x, s32 y)
>>>> +{
>>>> + unsigned int prec = 0;
>>>> + unsigned int idx = 0;
>>>> + s64 d;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!len)
>>>> + return 0;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!y)
>>>> + return snprintf(buf, len, "inf");
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!x)
>>>> + return snprintf(buf, len, "0");
>>>> +
>>>> + if (((x > 0) && (y < 0)) || ((x < 0) && (y > 0))) {
>>>> + buf[idx++] = '-';
>>>> + x = x > 0 ? x : -x;
>>>> + y = y > 0 ? y : -y;
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> + d = div64_s64(x, y);
>>>> + idx += snprintf(buf+idx, len-idx, "%d", (int)d);
>>>> + x = x - (y * d);
>>>> + if ((x != 0) && (idx < len-1)) {
>>>> + buf[idx++] = '.';
>>>> + x = x * 10;
>>>> + d = div64_s64(x, y);
>>>> +
>>>> + while ((idx < len-1) && (prec < 15)) {
>>>> + if (d || prec)
>>>> + prec++;
>>>> + buf[idx++] = '0' + (char)d;
>>>> + x = x - (y * d);
>>>> + if (!x)
>>>> + break;
>>>> + x = x * 10;
>>>> + d = div64_s64(x, y);
>>>> + }
>>>> + buf[idx] = 0;
>>>> + }
>>>> + return idx;
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> static ssize_t __iio_format_value(char *buf, size_t len, unsigned int type,
>>>> int size, const int *vals)
>>>> {
>>>> - unsigned long long tmp;
>>>> - int tmp0, tmp1;
>>>> bool scale_db = false;
>>>>
>>>> switch (type) {
>>>> @@ -598,14 +640,9 @@ static ssize_t __iio_format_value(char *buf, size_t len, unsigned int type,
>>>> else
>>>> return snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%09u", vals[0], vals[1]);
>>>> case IIO_VAL_FRACTIONAL:
>>>> - tmp = div_s64((s64)vals[0] * 1000000000LL, vals[1]);
>>>> - tmp1 = vals[1];
>>>> - tmp0 = (int)div_s64_rem(tmp, 1000000000, &tmp1);
>>>> - return snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%09u", tmp0, abs(tmp1));
>>>> + return __iio_format_div_prec(buf, len, vals[0], vals[1]);
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm a bit naive, but I'm also a bit curious.
>>> If you just bump the numbers here, would it work the same ?
>>>
>>> i.e. 10^9 -> 10^15 and "snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%15u", tmp0, abs(tmp1));"
>> I did look at that solution.
>>
>> But I was running into overflow issues (even with 64 bit numbers).
>>
>> eg: with a 2500 reference and 32 bits.
>>
>> 2500 * 10^15 = 2e+18 = 61 bits
>> And the result of
>> 2500 / 2^32 = 0.000000582076609
>> Only provides 9 significant digits with 15 decimal places.
>>
>> I was looking to provide 15 significant digits to match a standard double
>> precision floating point value.
>
> I'll ask the awkward engineering question. Is this precision actually valid?
> I.e. typical voltage references are +- 0.0x %
>
> The fact we have a 32 bit ADC means you'll detect small changes, but I'm
> dubious about whether the absolute value will ever be 'that good'.
>
> If we are going to go out of way to support greater precision we need
> a strong justification of why.
> To take advantage of these high precision devices you need to take into
> account non linear effects, temperature etc. These will swamp (I think)
> any effect of a lack of precision the scale value.
>
All valid points.
9 signification digits is probably fine.
However the current formatting doesn't always provide 9 significant digits.
So I believe this can start to add significant error.
Some typical ref voltages using 32 bit scale.
scale iio scale err err%
2500 5.820766091E-07 0.000000582 -7.660913467E-11 -0.0132%
3000 6.984919310E-07 0.000000698 -4.919309616E-10 -0.0705%
3300 7.683411241E-07 0.000000768 -3.411240578E-10 -0.0444%
5000 1.164153218E-06 0.000001164 -1.532182693E-10 -0.0132%
Looking at other drivers they seem to adjust the scale figure based on gain
selection as well. Is this expected?
If so when adding gain eg: x100
scale iio scale err err%
2500 5.820766091E-09 0.000000005 -8.207660913E-10 -16%
3000 6.984919310E-09 0.000000006 -9.849193096E-10 -16%
3300 7.683411241E-09 0.000000007 -6.834112406E-10 -10%
5000 1.164153218E-08 0.000000011 -6.415321827E-10 -6%
The limited number of significant digits is swamping everything else.
even at 24bit with gain 1x00
scale iio scale err err%
2500 1.490116119E-06 0.000001490 -1.161193848E-10 -0.01%
3000 1.788139343E-06 0.000001788 -1.393432617E-10 -0.01%
3300 1.966953278E-06 0.000001966 -9.532775879E-10 -0.05%
5000 2.980232239E-06 0.000002980 -2.322387695E-10 -0.01%
Similarly this while also affect the accuracy of values mapped thru the
rescale driver.
--
Regards
Phil Reid
ElectroMagnetic Imaging Technology Pty Ltd
Development of Geophysical Instrumentation & Software
www.electromag.com.au
3 The Avenue, Midland WA 6056, AUSTRALIA
Ph: +61 8 9250 8100
Fax: +61 8 9250 7100
Email: preid@electromag.com.au
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-01 5:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-29 6:26 [PATCH 1/1] iio: core: Improve precision of __iio_format_value for FRACTIONAL values Phil Reid
2019-01-29 8:32 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2019-01-29 9:11 ` Phil Reid
2019-01-31 13:35 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-01 5:47 ` Phil Reid [this message]
2019-02-01 11:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=b677dff8-11f5-abcd-6277-21490ce95a3b@electromag.com.au \
--to=preid@electromag.com.au \
--cc=ardeleanalex@gmail.com \
--cc=jic23@kernel.org \
--cc=jonathan.cameron@huawei.com \
--cc=knaack.h@gmx.de \
--cc=lars@metafoo.de \
--cc=linux-iio@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pmeerw@pmeerw.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).