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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Trusted Key policy for TPM 2.0
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 18:53:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f786037cf125393758c6b7be36d55c5ff01f2c6.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9244313e34910f17664a6a0320e5b96b4e80d56d.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

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On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 09:17 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> I'm not so sure we want to encourage that.  The persistent handle space
> is really limited in TPM 2.0.  We just ran into a real world situation
> where the TPM ran out after a handful.  It was an application that
> loaded files into persistent handles ("because it's easier") and then
> made use of them ... we're currently fixing it not to use persistent
> handles because it doesn't need to.

Makes sense. We should fix StrongSwan then, because they're doing the
same thing.

https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/TpmPlugin

Of course, if we document the file format and make it ubiquitously
supported (including making an OpenSSL *provider* to replace the
obsolete ENGINEs, and chasing it into GnuTLS in 
https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/-/issues/594 ), that will go a long
way towards encouraging applications to use keys wrapped in files
instead of NVRAM...


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-21 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-21  0:43 [PATCH 0/4] Trusted Key policy for TPM 2.0 James Bottomley
2021-05-21  0:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] security: keys: trusted: add PCR policy to TPM2 keys James Bottomley
2021-05-22 22:38   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-05-21  0:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: keys: trusted: add ability to specify arbitrary policy James Bottomley
2021-05-22 22:40   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-05-21  0:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] security: keys: trusted: implement counter/timer policy James Bottomley
2021-05-21  0:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] security: keys: trusted: implement authorization policy James Bottomley
2021-05-21 13:48 ` [PATCH 0/4] Trusted Key policy for TPM 2.0 David Woodhouse
2021-05-21 14:28   ` James Bottomley
2021-05-21 15:22     ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-21 15:55       ` James Bottomley
2021-05-21 16:12         ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-21 16:17           ` James Bottomley
2021-05-21 17:53             ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2021-05-22 22:45   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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