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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Cc: robh@kernel.org, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Guohanjun \(Hanjun Guo\)" <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: arm64 iommu groups issue
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:30:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200612143006.GA4905@red-moon.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <828ec7b3-27af-f0b9-b4a6-0886b0c24b5a@huawei.com>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:08:48PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> > > 
> > > Right, and even worse is that it relies on the port driver even
> > > existing at all.
> > > 
> > > All this iommu group assignment should be taken outside device
> > > driver probe paths.
> > > 
> > > However we could still consider device links for sync'ing the SMMU
> > > and each device probing.
> > 
> > Yes, we should get that for DT now thanks to the of_devlink stuff, but
> > cooking up some equivalent for IORT might be worthwhile.
> 
> It doesn't solve this problem, but at least we could remove the iommu_ops
> check in iort_iommu_xlate().
> 
> We would need to carve out a path from pci_device_add() or even device_add()
> to solve all cases.
> 
> > 
> > > > Another thought that crosses my mind is that when pci_device_group()
> > > > walks up to the point of ACS isolation and doesn't find an existing
> > > > group, it can still infer that everything it walked past *should* be put
> > > > in the same group it's then eventually going to return. Unfortunately I
> > > > can't see an obvious way for it to act on that knowledge, though, since
> > > > recursive iommu_probe_device() is unlikely to end well.
> > > 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > And this looks to be the reason for which current
> > > iommu_bus_init()->bus_for_each_device(..., add_iommu_group) fails
> > > also.
> > 
> > Of course, just adding a 'correct' add_device replay without the
> > of_xlate process doesn't help at all. No wonder this looked suspiciously
> > simpler than where the first idea left off...
> > 
> > (on reflection, the core of this idea seems to be recycling the existing
> > iommu_bus_init walk rather than building up a separate "waiting list",
> > while forgetting that that wasn't the difficult part of the original
> > idea anyway)
> 
> We could still use a bus walk to add the group per iommu, but we would need
> an additional check to ensure the device is associated with the IOMMU.
> 
> > 
> > > On this current code mentioned, the principle of this seems wrong to
> > > me - we call bus_for_each_device(..., add_iommu_group) for the first
> > > SMMU in the system which probes, but we attempt to add_iommu_group()
> > > for all devices on the bus, even though the SMMU for that device may
> > > yet to have probed.
> > 
> > Yes, iommu_bus_init() is one of the places still holding a
> > deeply-ingrained assumption that the ops go live for all IOMMU instances
> > at once, which is what warranted the further replay in
> > of_iommu_configure() originally. Moving that out of
> > of_platform_device_create() to support probe deferral is where the
> > trouble really started.
> 
> I'm not too familiar with the history here, but could this be reverted now
> with the introduction of of_devlink stuff?

Hi John,

have we managed to reach a consensus on this thread on how to solve
the issue ? Asking because this thread seems stalled - I am keen on
getting it fixed.

Thanks,
Lorenzo
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-12 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-19  8:43 arm64 iommu groups issue John Garry
2019-09-19 13:25 ` Robin Murphy
2019-09-19 14:35   ` John Garry
2019-11-04 12:18     ` John Garry
2020-02-13 15:49     ` John Garry
2020-02-13 19:40       ` Robin Murphy
2020-02-14 14:09         ` John Garry
2020-02-14 18:35           ` Robin Murphy
2020-02-17 12:08             ` John Garry
2020-06-12 14:30               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2020-06-15  7:35                 ` John Garry

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