iommu.lists.linux-foundation.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:48:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7febcba4-f5bf-6bf6-6180-895b18d1b806@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220124174404.GG966497@nvidia.com>

On 2022-01-24 17:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 09:46:26AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>> From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 3:11 PM
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The guest pasid and aux-domain related code are dead code in current
>>> iommu subtree. As we have reached a consensus that all these features
>>> should be based on the new iommufd framework (which is under active
>>> development), the first part of this series removes and cleanups all
>>> the dead code.
>>>
>>> The second part of this series refactors the iommu_domain by moving all
>>> domain-specific ops from iommu_ops to a new domain_ops. This makes an
>>> iommu_domain self-contained and represent the abstraction of an I/O
>>> translation table in the IOMMU subsystem. With different type of
>>> iommu_domain providing different set of ops, it's easier to support more
>>> types of I/O translation tables.
>>
>> You may want to give more background on this end goal. In general there
>> are four IOPT types in iommufd discussions:
>>
>> 1) The one currently tracked by iommu_domain, with a map/unmap semantics
>> 2) The one managed by mm and shared to iommu via sva_bind/unbind ops
>> 3) The one managed by userspace and bound to iommu via iommufd (require nesting)
>> 4) The one managed by KVM (e.g. EPT) and shared to iommu via a TBD interface
> 
> Yes, at least from an iommufd perspective I'd like to see one struct
> for all of these types, mainly so we can have a uniform alloc, attach
> and detatch flow for all io page table types.

Agreed, certainly an IOMMU_DOMAIN_SVA type that can both encapsulate the 
mm and effectively replace iommu_sva seems like a logical and fairly 
small next step. We already have the paradigm of different domain types 
supporting different ops, so initially an SVA domain would simply allow 
bind/unbind rather than attach/detach/map/unmap.

It might then further be possible to hide SVA bind/unbind behind the 
attach/detach interface, but AFAICS we'd still need distinct flows for 
attaching/binding the whole device vs. attaching/binding to a PASID, 
since they are fundamentally different things in their own right, and 
the ideal API should give us the orthogonality to also bind a device to 
an SVA domain without PASID (e.g. for KVM stage 2, or userspace 
assignment of simpler fault/stall-tolerant devices), or attach PASIDs to 
regular iommu_domains.

That distinction could of course be consolidated by flipping to the 
other approach of explicitly allocating the PASID first, then wrapping 
it in a struct device that could then be passed through the same 
attach/detach interfaces and distinguished internally, but although I 
still have a fondness for that approach I know I'm about the only one :)

Cheers,
Robin.

> If we want to use the iommu_domain, or make iommu_domain a sub-class
> of a new struct, can be determined as we go along.
> 
> Regardless, I think this cleanup stands on its own. Moving the ops and
> purging the dead code is clearly the right thing to do.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
_______________________________________________
iommu mailing list
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-25 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24  7:10 [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 1/7] iommu/vt-d: Remove guest pasid related callbacks Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu: Remove guest pasid related interfaces and definitions Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 3/7] iommu/vt-d: Remove aux-domain related callbacks Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 4/7] iommu: Remove aux-domain related interfaces and iommu_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/nouveau/device: Get right pgsize_bitmap of iommu_domain Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-25  2:59     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 6/7] iommu: Use right way to retrieve iommu_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-25  3:01     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-25  3:04     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24 17:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  3:18     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  0:20   ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25  3:54     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 7/7] iommu: Add iommu_domain::domain_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24 17:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  4:43       ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  4:42     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-24 10:16     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-24 16:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26  9:41         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-24 17:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  4:59     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25 12:37       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-24 17:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  5:04     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  0:57   ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25  6:27     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25 14:23       ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25 15:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-24  9:46 ` [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring Tian, Kevin
2022-01-24 17:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  1:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-25 14:48     ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2022-01-25 15:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26  1:51         ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-26 13:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26 14:00             ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-08  1:32 ` Lu Baolu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=7febcba4-f5bf-6bf6-6180-895b18d1b806@arm.com \
    --to=robin.murphy@arm.com \
    --cc=airlied@linux.ie \
    --cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
    --cc=ashok.raj@intel.com \
    --cc=bskeggs@redhat.com \
    --cc=daniel@ffwll.ch \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=jacob.jun.pan@intel.com \
    --cc=jgg@nvidia.com \
    --cc=jonathanh@nvidia.com \
    --cc=kevin.tian@intel.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=thierry.reding@gmail.com \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).