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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:51:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a43279ba-8a18-a4a7-f317-a5e2091a0c74@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220125151602.GL84788@nvidia.com>

On 1/25/22 11:16 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 02:48:02PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
>   
>> Agreed, certainly an IOMMU_DOMAIN_SVA type that can both encapsulate the mm
>> and effectively replace iommu_sva seems like a logical and fairly small next
>> step. We already have the paradigm of different domain types supporting
>> different ops, so initially an SVA domain would simply allow bind/unbind
>> rather than attach/detach/map/unmap.
> 
> I hope we can quickly get to a PASID enabled generic attach/detach
> scheme - we really need this to do the uAPI part of this interface.

Agreed. Jacob is working on kernel DMA with PASID. He needs such
interfaces as well. I have worked out an implementation for vt-d driver.
It could be post for review inside Jacob's series for kernel DMA with
PASID.

> 
>> they are fundamentally different things in their own right, and the ideal
>> API should give us the orthogonality to also bind a device to an SVA domain
>> without PASID (e.g. for KVM stage 2, or userspace assignment of simpler
>> fault/stall-tolerant devices), or attach PASIDs to regular iommu_domains.
> 
> Yes, these are orthogonal things. A iommu driver that supports PASID
> ideally should support PASID enabled attach/detatch for every
> iommu_domain type it supports.
> 
> SVA should not be entangled with PASID beyond that SVA is often used
> with PASID - a SVA iommu_domain should be fully usable with a RID too.

The prototype of PASID enabled attach/detach ops could look like:

        int (*attach_dev_pasid)(struct iommu_domain *domain,
                                struct device *dev, ioasid_t id);
        void (*detach_dev_pasid)(struct iommu_domain *domain,
                                 struct device *dev, ioasid_t id);

But the iommu driver should implement different callbacks for

1) attaching an IOMMU DMA domain to a PASID on device;
    - kernel DMA with PASID
    - mdev-like device passthrough
    - etc.
2) attaching a CPU-shared domain to a PASID on device;
    - SVA
    - guest PASID
    - etc.

> 
> I'm hoping to see the core iommu code provide some simplified "SVA"
> API that under the covers creates a SVA domain and then does a normal
> PASID attach using the global PASID in the mm_struct - the
> driver should not care what, or even if, PASID is used for a SVA
> domain.
> 
> Jason
> 

Best regards,
baolu
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24  7:10 [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 1/7] iommu/vt-d: Remove guest pasid related callbacks Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu: Remove guest pasid related interfaces and definitions Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 3/7] iommu/vt-d: Remove aux-domain related callbacks Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:10 ` [PATCH 4/7] iommu: Remove aux-domain related interfaces and iommu_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/nouveau/device: Get right pgsize_bitmap of iommu_domain Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-25  2:59     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 6/7] iommu: Use right way to retrieve iommu_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-25  3:01     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-25  3:04     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24 17:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  3:18     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  0:20   ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25  3:54     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  7:11 ` [PATCH 7/7] iommu: Add iommu_domain::domain_ops Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-24 17:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  4:43       ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  4:42     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-24  9:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-24 10:16     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-24 16:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26  9:41         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-24 17:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  4:59     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25 12:37       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-24 17:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  5:04     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25  0:57   ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25  6:27     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-25 14:23       ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25 15:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-24  9:46 ` [PATCH 0/7] iommu cleanup and refactoring Tian, Kevin
2022-01-24 17:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-25  1:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-01-25 14:48     ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-25 15:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26  1:51         ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2022-01-26 13:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-01-26 14:00             ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-08  1:32 ` Lu Baolu

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