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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 07:29:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE689B8@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

> From: Tian, Kevin
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:01 AM
[...]
> > aux-domain is just a normal domain (struct iommu_domain), what
> > happens
> > when a domain that was used as a primary domain and has bound
> > aux-domains to it, is bound with iommu_aux_domain_attach() to another
> > domain?
> 
> aux domain is essentially a way to lend partial DMA capability to less-
> privileged entity (process or VM), which implies that part of DMA
> unmanaged by kernel driver. If we can make such assumption that aux
> only applies to UNMANAGED domain (thus disallow BLOCKED/IDENTITY/
> DMA from using aux), then above open doesn't exist, because if primary
> domain is UNMANAGED type it essentially means the whole device fully
> owned by user space or guest thus no host driver entity to ever create
> aux domain. If primary domain is not UNMANAGED type, it will fail in
> aux API. with this design, each device will have at most one primary
> and multiple aux, i.e. just two layers. no aux-bind-to-aux thing.
> 
> this assumption should be true in discussed usages around aux domain.
> but I may overlook something... Jean?
> 

btw Baolu just reminded me one thing which is worthy of noting here.
'primary' vs. 'aux' concept makes sense only when we look from a device
p.o.v. That binding relationship is not (*should not be*) carry-and-forwarded
cross devices. every domain must be explicitly attached to other devices
(instead of implicitly attached being above example), and new primary/aux
attribute on another device will be decided at attach time.

Thanks
Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-26  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-19 18:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20181019181158.2395-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] iommu: Adapt attach/detach_dev() for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  2:32       ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] drivers core: Add I/O ASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-3-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  4:49       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <9c6cd6c1-3569-4251-8344-fc9df0e743bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 10:22           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <20181022102254.GA25399-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23  6:56               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <02006e4f-2acf-6ff8-b695-c54c99509b46-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:13                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-07  4:53       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <fb2bd5fe-5742-fcd8-b8f0-1885040e8d4f-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-08 18:51           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-12 14:40       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]         ` <20181112144039.GA25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 11:16           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <8f17757a-c657-aab9-a6a0-fb0cc9c610a8-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:10               ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                 ` <62f05552-df46-6e12-10ed-820429dfda59-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22  6:59                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-22  8:38                   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-11-22  8:44               ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                 ` <20181122084429.GB1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22 11:17                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] iommu/sva: Use external PASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] iommu/sva: Support AUXD feature Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement detach_dev op Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-20  3:36   ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Xu Zaibo
2018-10-22  6:53   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE0E176-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 11:50       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <11f88122-afd3-a34c-3cd4-db681bf5498b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 15:35           ` Jordan Crouse
2018-10-22 18:01           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-06 16:25           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]             ` <20181106162539.4gmkvg57mja3bn7k-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07  3:40               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <e22e3631-2ecb-664d-5666-8e0f865dec83-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 16:43                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181107164323.GA19831-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 17:23                       ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-21  4:40                       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                         ` <758bb120-5bc0-1e2d-ccd0-9be0bcc5d8bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 11:21                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                             ` <20181123112125.GF1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-25  6:51                               ` Lu Baolu
2018-11-26  3:01                               ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                               ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-26  7:29                                 ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
     [not found]                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE689B8-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-07 10:29                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                       ` <20181207102926.GM16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  2:06                                         ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                           ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE95394-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:57                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                               ` <20181210085745.GN16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-11 18:34                                                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                                   ` <4be63d12-fa1c-b180-761b-5e8ceed58545-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:22                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-12  9:31                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE9D6CA-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:54                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                                       ` <20181212095403.GU16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 10:03                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-12-10  2:57                                         ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                                           ` <bf1ee4a3-6d3f-e0db-a02a-1db819843a60-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:59                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-11 13:35                                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                           ` <fc173d9f-57e2-dd87-95d0-1c615f2e14e3-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:29                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-11-08 18:29               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                 ` <42949d93-e22c-dd4d-cd49-46efc0b73cdb-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 14:55                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181112145541.GB25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:05                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                         ` <5dcf9238-62b2-8df6-b378-183ee09c5951-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:50                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2018-11-22  8:39                       ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                         ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE5A7A7-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:14                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2018-10-22 10:07   ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]     ` <20181021194426.GA11201-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 16:03       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]         ` <d45c5222-68e9-1d6e-730b-bb8dbc060586-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 17:16           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <1540314963.21962.20.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:08               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-10-26  3:00           ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-22 16:48   ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]     ` <20181022164834.GH26762-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-02  3:19       ` Lu Baolu

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