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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"shuah@kernel.org" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] iommu: Introduce a new iommu_group_replace_domain() API
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:34:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff0b2a68-8aeb-426b-0fb4-010c5e7b20b8@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR11MB527176BE1F6DFA3D2942664D8CDD9@BL1PR11MB5271.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 2023/2/13 10:24, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> From: Jason Gunthorpe<jgg@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:45 AM
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 04:51:10PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:17:54 -0800
>>> Nicolin Chen<nicolinc@nvidia.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> qemu has a need to replace the translations associated with a domain
>>>> when the guest does large-scale operations like switching between an
>>>> IDENTITY domain and, say, dma-iommu.c.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, it does this by replacing all the mappings in a single
>>>> domain, but this is very inefficient and means that domains have to be
>>>> per-device rather than per-translation.
>>>>
>>>> Provide a high-level API to allow replacements of one domain with
>>>> another. This is similar to a detach/attach cycle except it doesn't
>>>> force the group to go to the blocking domain in-between.
>>>>
>>>> By removing this forced blocking domain the iommu driver has the
>>>> opportunity to implement an atomic replacement of the domains to the
>>>> greatest extent its hardware allows.
>>>>
>>>> It could be possible to adderss this by simply removing the protection
>>>> from the iommu_attach_group(), but it is not so clear if that is safe
>>>> for the few users. Thus, add a new API to serve this new purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Atomic replacement allows the qemu emulation of the viommu to be
>> more
>>>> complete, as real hardware has this ability.
>>> I was under the impression that we could not atomically switch a
>>> device's domain relative to in-flight DMA.
> it's possible as long as the mappings for in-flight DMA don't change
> in the transition.
> 

It also requires the mappings in old and new domains are identical. In
another word, any IOVA should be translated to a same result no matter
through the old domain, the new domain, or hardware caches.

A similar replacement has been implemented in the code. For example,
the Intel IOMMU driver dynamically transforms a large range (2M or 1G)
mapping from discrete 4k pages to a super pages to improve the paging
cache efficiency.

Best regards,
baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-13  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07 21:17 [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iommu: Move dev_iommu_ops() to private header Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] iommu: Introduce a new iommu_group_replace_domain() API Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:34       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 23:51   ` Alex Williamson
2023-02-11  0:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:24       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  8:34         ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2023-02-13 14:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14  3:29           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  6:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-24  0:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-24  8:07           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] iommufd: Create access in vfio_iommufd_emulated_bind() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:15     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 18:58   ` Eric Farman
2023-02-09 19:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_ACCESS_SET_IOAS coverage Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] iommufd: Add replace support in iommufd_access_set_ioas() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 20:28     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 20:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 22:18         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for access->ioas replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] iommufd/device: Make hwpt_list list_add/del symmetric Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 21:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:12           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:08   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:12   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 21:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  0:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10 20:50         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-11  0:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-13  2:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  7:48             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-13  8:27               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13 14:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:54                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:37                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  1:58                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  2:15                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:15                         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  7:24                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:59         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:38           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:16             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] vfio: Support IO page table replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] vfio: Do not allow !ops->dma_unmap in vfio_pin/unpin_pages() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 16:19       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:13   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  1:34     ` Tian, Kevin

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