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From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 10:35:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220909153522.r2a4amvtfp7l56zo@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220706082016.2603916-1-chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 04:20:02PM +0800, Chao Peng wrote:
> This is the v7 of this series which tries to implement the fd-based KVM
> guest private memory. The patches are based on latest kvm/queue branch
> commit:
> 
>   b9b71f43683a (kvm/queue) KVM: x86/mmu: Buffer nested MMU
> split_desc_cache only by default capacity
> 
> Introduction
> ------------
> In general this patch series introduce fd-based memslot which provides
> guest memory through memory file descriptor fd[offset,size] instead of
> hva/size. The fd can be created from a supported memory filesystem
> like tmpfs/hugetlbfs etc. which we refer as memory backing store. KVM
> and the the memory backing store exchange callbacks when such memslot
> gets created. At runtime KVM will call into callbacks provided by the
> backing store to get the pfn with the fd+offset. Memory backing store
> will also call into KVM callbacks when userspace punch hole on the fd
> to notify KVM to unmap secondary MMU page table entries.
> 
> Comparing to existing hva-based memslot, this new type of memslot allows
> guest memory unmapped from host userspace like QEMU and even the kernel
> itself, therefore reduce attack surface and prevent bugs.
> 
> Based on this fd-based memslot, we can build guest private memory that
> is going to be used in confidential computing environments such as Intel
> TDX and AMD SEV. When supported, the memory backing store can provide
> more enforcement on the fd and KVM can use a single memslot to hold both
> the private and shared part of the guest memory. 

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you all know that I reserved a slot at the LPC
Confidential Computing Microconference to discuss some topics related
to unmapped/inaccessible private memory support:

  "Unmapped Private Memory for Confidential Guests"
  Tuesday, Sep 13th, 10:00am (Dublin time)
  https://lpc.events/event/16/sessions/133/#20220913

The discussion agenda is still a bit in flux, but one topic I really
wanted to cover is how we intend to deal with the kernel directmap
for TDX/SNP, where there is a need to either remove or split mappings
so that KVM or other kernel threads writing to non-private pages
don't run into issues due mappings overlapping with private pages.[1]

Other possible discussion topics:

  - guarding against shared->private conversions while KVM is
    attempting to access a shared page (separate PFN pools for
    shared/private seems to resolve this nicely, but may not be
    compatible with things like pKVM where the underlying PFN
    is the same for shared/private)[2]

  - extending KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT to handle batched requests to
    better handle things like explicit batched conversions initiated
    by the guest

It's a short session so not sure how much time we'll actually have
to discuss things in detail, but maybe this can at least be a good
jumping off point for other discussions.

Thanks, and hope to see you there!

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/YWb8WG6Ravbs1nbx@google.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+EHjTy6NF=BkCqK0vhXLdtKZMahp55JUMSfxN96-NT3YiMXYQ@mail.gmail.com/

      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-09 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-06  8:20 [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] mm: Add F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE seal to memfd Chao Peng
2022-07-21  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21  9:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21 15:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:46         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 10:27     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:54       ` Chao Peng
2022-07-25 14:49         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:42     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 17:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-05 18:06       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:40         ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10  9:38       ` Chao Peng
2022-08-17 23:41       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-18  9:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-23  7:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-24 10:20           ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:18     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] selftests/memfd: Add tests for F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] mm: Introduce memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:22     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10 10:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 14:38         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-11 12:27           ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-11 13:39             ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] mm/shmem: Support memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-07-12 18:02   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13  7:44     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:01       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:49         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14  4:15           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-05 13:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:25     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10  9:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-11 13:17         ` Chao Peng
2022-09-07 16:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] KVM: Rename KVM_PRIVATE_MEM_SLOTS to KVM_INTERNAL_MEM_SLOTS Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Chao Peng
2022-07-15 11:36   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-18 13:29     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-18 15:26       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 14:02         ` Chao Peng
2022-08-04  7:10   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-10  8:19     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] KVM: Rename mmu_notifier_* Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:13     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 19:54     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-10  8:09       ` Chao Peng
2023-05-23  7:19   ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-23 14:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24  6:12       ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-24 20:16         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 20:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-24 21:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25  8:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-25  3:52             ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-24 20:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:51   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 14:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] KVM: Register/unregister the guest private memory regions Chao Peng
2022-07-19  8:00   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-19 14:23       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 15:07         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 15:31           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 16:21             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 17:41               ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-21  7:34               ` Wei Wang
2022-07-21  9:29                 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 17:58                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:04                     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:54                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02  0:49                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02 16:38                           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03  9:48                             ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 15:51                               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-04  7:58                                 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 16:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-21  9:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-19 19:37   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-08-24 10:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:21     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 20:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03  9:52     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-07-19  9:55   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:12     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] memfd_create.2: Describe MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-01 14:40   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-03  9:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13  3:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13  7:57   ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:35     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:59       ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14  4:39         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14  5:06           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14  4:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-07-14  5:13         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 10:02 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 11:30   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 13:32     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-11 17:28       ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12  3:22       ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 17:18     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 23:02       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  6:02         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  7:18           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  8:48             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12  9:33               ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-15 13:04               ` Chao Peng
2022-08-16  4:28                 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-16 11:33                 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 12:24                   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-16 13:03                     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 15:38                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-17 15:27                         ` Michael Roth
2022-08-23  1:25                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-23 17:41                         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-18  5:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-18 13:24   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-19  0:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19  3:38       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-19 22:53         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-23  7:55         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23 16:05           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24  9:41             ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09  4:55               ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-19  3:00     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-20  0:27       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-21  5:15         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-31 14:24           ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-02 10:27             ` Chao Peng
2022-09-02 12:30               ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-08  1:10             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  9:44               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13 13:28                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 14:53                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13 16:00                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 16:12                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-09  4:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-09-09 14:32           ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-09 19:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-09-09 23:02               ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-21 10:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-24 10:27         ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09  4:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <diqzlej60z57.fsf@ackerleytng-cloudtop.c.googlers.com>
     [not found]       ` <20221202061347.1070246-2-chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
2023-04-13 15:25         ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-13 22:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-14 22:38             ` Ackerley Tng
2023-04-14 23:26               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-15  0:06                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-19  8:29             ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-20  0:49               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-20  8:35                 ` Christian Brauner
2022-08-26 15:19 ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:17   ` Chao Peng
2022-08-31  9:12     ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-02 10:19       ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09 15:35 ` Michael Roth [this message]

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