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From: Kautuk Consul <kconsul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 08/14] KVM: Rename mmu_notifier_*
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 11:42:15 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZG2qv9sWl2RUnGqd@li-a450e7cc-27df-11b2-a85c-b5a9ac31e8ef.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGzLf4zgxpBjghaF@google.com>

On 2023-05-23 07:19:43, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2023, Kautuk Consul wrote:
> > On 2022-07-06 16:20:10, Chao Peng wrote:
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > > index e9153b54e2a4..c262ebb168a7 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > > @@ -765,10 +765,10 @@ struct kvm {
> > >  
> > >  #if defined(CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER) && defined(KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER)
> > >  	struct mmu_notifier mmu_notifier;
> > > -	unsigned long mmu_notifier_seq;
> > > -	long mmu_notifier_count;
> > > -	gfn_t mmu_notifier_range_start;
> > > -	gfn_t mmu_notifier_range_end;
> > > +	unsigned long mmu_updating_seq;
> > > +	long mmu_updating_count;
> > 
> > Can we convert mmu_updating_seq and mmu_updating_count to atomic_t ?
> 
> Heh, can we?  Yes.  Should we?  No.
> 
> > I see that not all accesses to these are under the kvm->mmu_lock
> > spinlock.
> 
> Ya, working as intended.  Ignoring gfn_to_pfn_cache for the moment, all accesses
> to mmu_invalidate_in_progress (was mmu_notifier_count / mmu_updating_count above)
> are done under mmu_lock.  And for for mmu_notifier_seq (mmu_updating_seq above),
> all writes and some reads are done under mmu_lock.  The only reads that are done
> outside of mmu_lock are the initial snapshots of the sequence number.
> 
> gfn_to_pfn_cache uses a different locking scheme, the comments in
> mmu_notifier_retry_cache() do a good job explaining the ordering.
> 
> > This will also remove the need for putting separate smp_wmb() and
> > smp_rmb() memory barriers while accessing these structure members.
> 
> No, the memory barriers aren't there to provide any kind of atomicity.  The barriers
> exist to ensure that stores and loads to/from the sequence and invalidate in-progress
> counts are ordered relative to the invalidation (stores to counts) and creation (loads)
> of SPTEs.  Making the counts atomic changes nothing because atomic operations don't
> guarantee the necessary ordering.
I'm not saying that the memory barriers provide atomicity.
My comment was based on the assumption that "all atomic operations are
implicit memory barriers". If that assumption is true then we won't need
the memory barriers here if we use atomic operations for protecting
these 2 structure members.
> 
> E.g. when handling a page fault, KVM snapshots the sequence outside of mmu_lock
> _before_ touching any state that is involved in resolving the host pfn, e.g. primary
> MMU state (VMAs, host page tables, etc.).   After the page fault task acquires
> mmu_lock, KVM checks that there are no in-progress invalidations and that the sequence
> count is the same.  This ensures that if there is a concurrent page fault and
> invalidation event, the page fault task will either acquire mmu_lock and create SPTEs
> _before_ the invalidation is processed, or the page fault task will observe either an
> elevated mmu_invalidate_in_progress or a different sequence count, and thus retry the
> page fault, if the page fault task acquires mmu_lock after the invalidation event.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-24  6:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-06  8:20 [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] mm: Add F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE seal to memfd Chao Peng
2022-07-21  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21  9:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21 15:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:46         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 10:27     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:54       ` Chao Peng
2022-07-25 14:49         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:42     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 17:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-05 18:06       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:40         ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10  9:38       ` Chao Peng
2022-08-17 23:41       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-18  9:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-23  7:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-24 10:20           ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:18     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] selftests/memfd: Add tests for F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] mm: Introduce memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:22     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10 10:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 14:38         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-11 12:27           ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-11 13:39             ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] mm/shmem: Support memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-07-12 18:02   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13  7:44     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:01       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:49         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14  4:15           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-05 13:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:25     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10  9:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-11 13:17         ` Chao Peng
2022-09-07 16:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] KVM: Rename KVM_PRIVATE_MEM_SLOTS to KVM_INTERNAL_MEM_SLOTS Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Chao Peng
2022-07-15 11:36   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-18 13:29     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-18 15:26       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 14:02         ` Chao Peng
2022-08-04  7:10   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-10  8:19     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] KVM: Rename mmu_notifier_* Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:13     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 19:54     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-10  8:09       ` Chao Peng
2023-05-23  7:19   ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-23 14:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24  6:12       ` Kautuk Consul [this message]
2023-05-24 20:16         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 20:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-24 21:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25  8:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-25  3:52             ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-24 20:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:51   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 14:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] KVM: Register/unregister the guest private memory regions Chao Peng
2022-07-19  8:00   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-19 14:23       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 15:07         ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 15:31           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 16:21             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 17:41               ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-21  7:34               ` Wei Wang
2022-07-21  9:29                 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 17:58                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:04                     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:54                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02  0:49                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02 16:38                           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03  9:48                             ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 15:51                               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-04  7:58                                 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 16:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-21  9:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-19 19:37   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-08-24 10:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:21     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 20:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03  9:52     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-07-19  9:55   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:12     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06  8:20 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] memfd_create.2: Describe MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-01 14:40   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-03  9:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13  3:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13  7:57   ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:35     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:59       ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14  4:39         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14  5:06           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14  4:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-07-14  5:13         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 10:02 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 11:30   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 13:32     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-11 17:28       ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12  3:22       ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 17:18     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 23:02       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  6:02         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  7:18           ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12  8:48             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12  9:33               ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-15 13:04               ` Chao Peng
2022-08-16  4:28                 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-16 11:33                 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 12:24                   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-16 13:03                     ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 15:38                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-17 15:27                         ` Michael Roth
2022-08-23  1:25                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-23 17:41                         ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-18  5:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-18 13:24   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-19  0:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19  3:38       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-19 22:53         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-23  7:55         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23 16:05           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24  9:41             ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09  4:55               ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-19  3:00     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-20  0:27       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-21  5:15         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-31 14:24           ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-02 10:27             ` Chao Peng
2022-09-02 12:30               ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-08  1:10             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  9:44               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13 13:28                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 14:53                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13 16:00                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 16:12                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-09  4:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-09-09 14:32           ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-09 19:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-09-09 23:02               ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-21 10:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-24 10:27         ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09  4:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <diqzlej60z57.fsf@ackerleytng-cloudtop.c.googlers.com>
     [not found]       ` <20221202061347.1070246-2-chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
2023-04-13 15:25         ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-13 22:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-14 22:38             ` Ackerley Tng
2023-04-14 23:26               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-15  0:06                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-19  8:29             ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-20  0:49               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-20  8:35                 ` Christian Brauner
2022-08-26 15:19 ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:17   ` Chao Peng
2022-08-31  9:12     ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-02 10:19       ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09 15:35 ` Michael Roth

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