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From: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
To: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
Cc: matthew, LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:28:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <738b359eccce111fb8c81733276b9845@assyoma.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0d6b9a1-19fa-5e88-e031-d30d7386dfe8@redhat.com>

Il 13-09-2017 10:15 Zdenek Kabelac ha scritto:
> Ohh this is pretty major constrain ;)

Sure :p
Sorry for not explicitly stating that before.

> 
> But as pointed out multiple times - with scripting around various
> fullness moments of thin-pool - several different actions can be
> programmed around,
> starting from fstrim, ending with plain erase of unneeded snapshot.
> (Maybe erasing unneeded files....)
> 
> To get most secure application - such app should actually avoid using
> page-cache (using direct-io)  in such case you are always guaranteed
> to get exact error at the exact time (i.e. even without journaled
> mounting option for ext4....)
> 
> 

True, but pagecache exists for a reason. Anyway, this is not anything 
you can "fix" in device mapper/lvm, I 100% agree with that.

> Partially this might get solved in 'some' cases with fully provisioned
> thinLVs within thin-pool...
> 
> What comes to my mind as possible supporting solution is -
> adding possible enhancement on LVM2 side could be  'forcible' removal
> of running volumes  (aka lvm2 equivalent  of 'dmsetup remove --force')
> 
> ATM lvm2 prevents you to remove 'running/mounted' volumes.
> 
> I can well imagine  LVM will let you forcible  replace such LV with
> error target  - so instead of  thinLV  - you will have  single 'error'
> target snapshot - which could be possibly even  auto-cleaned once the
> volume use-count drops bellow 0  (lvmpolld/dmeventd monitoring
> whatever...)
> 
> (Of course - we are not solving what happens to application
> using/running out of such error target - hopefully something not
> completely bad....)
> 
> This way - you get very 'powerful' weapon to be used in those 
> 'scriplets'
> so you can drop uneeded volumes ANYTIME you need to and reclaim its 
> resources...
> 

This would be *really* great. I played with dm-setup remove/error target 
and, while working, it often freezed LVM.
An integrated forced volume removal/swith to error target would be 
great.

Thank.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-13  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-09-12 23:22 ` [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:53   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13  8:15     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13  8:28       ` Gionatan Danti [this message]
2017-09-13  8:44         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 10:46           ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <914479528.2618507.1505463313888.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-15  8:15 ` matthew patton
2017-09-15 10:01   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15 18:35   ` Xen
     [not found] <498090067.1559855.1505338608244.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13 21:36 ` matthew patton
     [not found] <1771452279.913055.1505269434212.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13  2:23 ` matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:25   ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <57374453.843393.1505261050977.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13  0:04 ` matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:10   ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <691633892.829188.1505258696384.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 23:24 ` matthew patton
     [not found] <418002318.647314.1505245480415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
     [not found] ` <418002318.647314.1505245480415@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 21:36   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:16     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 22:41       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:02         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 23:15           ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:31             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13  8:21               ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <1806055156.426333.1505228581063.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 15:03 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12 17:09   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:41     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 22:55       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:11         ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <832949972.1610294.1505170613541.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-11 22:56 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12  5:28   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-08 10:35 Gionatan Danti
2017-09-08 11:06 ` Xen
2017-09-09 22:04 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-11 10:35   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 10:55     ` Xen
2017-09-11 11:20       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 12:06         ` Xen
2017-09-11 12:45           ` Xen
2017-09-11 13:11           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 13:46             ` Xen
2017-09-12 11:46               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:37                 ` Xen
2017-09-12 14:37                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:44                     ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:14                     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 21:57                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 17:41                         ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:17                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14  3:19                             ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:00                 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:25                   ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-13  8:15                     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13  8:33                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 18:43                     ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:35                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14  5:59                         ` Xen
2017-09-14 19:05                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15  2:06                             ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-15  6:02                               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-15  8:37                               ` Xen
2017-09-15  7:34                             ` Xen
2017-09-15  9:22                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-16 22:33                                 ` Xen
2017-09-17  6:31                                   ` Xen
2017-09-17  7:10                                     ` Xen
2017-09-18 19:20                                       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-20 13:05                                         ` Xen
2017-09-21  9:49                                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 10:22                                             ` Xen
2017-09-21 13:02                                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 14:49                                                 ` Xen
2017-09-21 20:32                                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-18  8:56                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 14:00             ` Xen
2017-09-11 17:34               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 15:31             ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 15:52               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:35                 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 17:41               ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 21:08                 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 16:55             ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 17:43               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:59     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 11:01       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 11:34         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 12:03           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:47             ` Xen
2017-09-12 13:51               ` pattonme
2017-09-12 14:57               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:49                 ` Xen
2017-09-12 16:57             ` Gionatan Danti

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