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From: Eric Ren <zren@suse.com>
To: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
Cc: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:35:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db8ea14b-afdf-5297-3e38-12ef7bbe4d89@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c53601ab-e003-0c9b-038f-a3f6475a1e6a@redhat.com>

Hi Zdenek,

> lvm2 is using  upstream community BZ located here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=LVM%20and%20device-mapper 
>
>
> You can check RHBZ easily for all lvm2 bZ
> (mixes  RHEL/Fedora/Upstream)
>
> We usually want to have upstream BZ being linked with Community BZ,
> but sometimes it's driven through other channel - not ideal - but 
> still easily search-able.

Yes, it's a place where problems are discussed. Thanks for your reminder :)

> [...snip...]
> It's should be opposite case - unless something regressed recently...
> Easiest is to write out  lvm2 test suite some test.
>
> And eventually bisect which commit broke it...

Good to know! I will find time to test different versions on both 
openSUSE and Fedora.

>
>> - pvmove is slow. I know it's not fault of LVM. The time is almost 
>> spent in DM (the IO dispatch/copy).
>
> Yeah - this is more or less design issue inside kernel - there are
> some workarounds - but since primary motivation was not to overload
> system - it's been left a sleep a bit - since focus gained  'raid' target

Aha, it's a good reason. Ideally, it would be good for pvmove having 
some option to control
the IO rate. I know it's not easy...

> and these pvmove fixes are working with old dm mirror target...
> (i.e. try to use bigger  region_size for mirror in lvm.conf  (over 512K)
> and evaluate performance  - there is something wrong - but core mirror 
> developer is busy with raid features ATM....

Thanks for the suggestion.

>
>
>> - snapshot cannot be used in cluster environment. There is a usecase: 
>> user has a central backup system
>
> Well, snapshot CANNOT work in cluster.
> What you can do is to split snapshot and attach it different volume,
> but exclusive assess is simply required - there is no synchronization 
> of changes like with cmirrord for old mirror....

Got it! Advanced features like snapshot/thinp/dmcache, have their own 
metadata. The payment for having those metadata
changes cluster-aware is painful.

> We do our best....

Like you guys have been always doing, thanks!

Regards,
Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-11 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-08 10:35 [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes Gionatan Danti
2017-09-08 11:06 ` Xen
2017-09-09 22:04 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-11 10:35   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 10:55     ` Xen
2017-09-11 11:20       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 12:06         ` Xen
2017-09-11 12:45           ` Xen
2017-09-11 13:11           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 13:46             ` Xen
2017-09-12 11:46               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:37                 ` Xen
2017-09-12 14:37                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:44                     ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:14                     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 21:57                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 17:41                         ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:17                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14  3:19                             ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:00                 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:25                   ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-13  8:15                     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13  8:33                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 18:43                     ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:35                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14  5:59                         ` Xen
2017-09-14 19:05                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15  2:06                             ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-15  6:02                               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-15  8:37                               ` Xen
2017-09-15  7:34                             ` Xen
2017-09-15  9:22                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-16 22:33                                 ` Xen
2017-09-17  6:31                                   ` Xen
2017-09-17  7:10                                     ` Xen
2017-09-18 19:20                                       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-20 13:05                                         ` Xen
2017-09-21  9:49                                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 10:22                                             ` Xen
2017-09-21 13:02                                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 14:34                                                 ` [linux-lvm] Clarification (and limitation) of the kernel feature I proposed Xen
2017-09-21 14:49                                                 ` [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes Xen
2017-09-21 20:32                                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-18  8:56                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 14:00             ` Xen
2017-09-11 17:34               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 15:31             ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 15:52               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:35                 ` Eric Ren [this message]
2017-09-11 17:41               ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 21:08                 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 16:55             ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 17:43               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:59     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 11:01       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 11:34         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 12:03           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:47             ` Xen
2017-09-12 13:51               ` pattonme
2017-09-12 14:57               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:49                 ` Xen
2017-09-12 16:57             ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <832949972.1610294.1505170613541.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-11 22:56 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12  5:28   ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <1806055156.426333.1505228581063.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 15:03 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12 17:09   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:41     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 22:55       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:11         ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <418002318.647314.1505245480415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
     [not found] ` <418002318.647314.1505245480415@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 21:36   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:16     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 22:41       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:02         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 23:15           ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:31             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13  8:21               ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <1575245610.821680.1505258554456.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 23:22 ` matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:53   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13  8:15     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13  8:28       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13  8:44         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 10:46           ` Gionatan Danti
     [not found] <691633892.829188.1505258696384.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-12 23:24 ` matthew patton
     [not found] <57374453.843393.1505261050977.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13  0:04 ` matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:10   ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <1771452279.913055.1505269434212.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13  2:23 ` matthew patton
2017-09-13  7:25   ` Zdenek Kabelac
     [not found] <498090067.1559855.1505338608244.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-13 21:36 ` matthew patton
     [not found] <914479528.2618507.1505463313888.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-15  8:15 ` matthew patton
2017-09-15 10:01   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15 18:35   ` Xen

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