Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

[Helge Kreutzmann]

Dear manpages maintainers.
the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of
man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as
well for a large variety of target languages.

During their work translators notice different possible issues in the
original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward
typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention
not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original.

We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at
least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some
distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss
the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be
already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately
if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and
the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check
each and every issue.

Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format,
i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man,
groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where
possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into
your source format.

Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are
not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the
problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify
them.

I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each
issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If
future reports should use another channel, please let me know.

**

Space between true and (1) and mark up

"The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (1), that a "
"connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the "
"connection should remain open during successive queries.  Otherwise, name "
"server queries will use UDP datagrams."

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Re: Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Dear manpages maintainers.
> the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of
> man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as
> well for a large variety of target languages.
> 
> During their work translators notice different possible issues in the
> original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward
> typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention
> not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original.
> 
> We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at
> least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some
> distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss
> the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be
> already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately
> if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and
> the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check
> each and every issue.
> 
> Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format,
> i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man,
> groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where
> possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into
> your source format.
> 
> Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are
> not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the
> problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify
> them.
> 
> I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each
> issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If
> future reports should use another channel, please let me know.
> 
> **
> 
> Space between true and (1) and mark up
> 
> "The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (1), that a "
> "connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the "
> "connection should remain open during successive queries.  Otherwise, name "
> "server queries will use UDP datagrams."

I don't understand this report. Can you elaborate please.

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Re: Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

[Helge Kreutzmann]

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Hello Michael,
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:09:16PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > **
> > 
> > Space between true and (1) and mark up
> > 
> > "The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (1), that a "
> > "connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the "
> > "connection should remain open during successive queries.  Otherwise, name "
> > "server queries will use UDP datagrams."
> 
> I don't understand this report. Can you elaborate please.

We translator understood the "(1)" as the section number for the man
page of true. So actually it should also contain markup, i.e.

true (1) → B<true>(1)

And there is no space between the man page name and the section. If
another meaning was intended, then we translators misunderstood this
sentence completly.

Best regards

           Helge

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Re: Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 21:48, Helge Kreutzmann <debian@helgefjell.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:09:16PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > > **
> > >
> > > Space between true and (1) and mark up
> > >
> > > "The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (1), that a "
> > > "connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the "
> > > "connection should remain open during successive queries.  Otherwise, name "
> > > "server queries will use UDP datagrams."
> >
> > I don't understand this report. Can you elaborate please.
>
> We translator understood the "(1)" as the section number for the man
> page of true. So actually it should also contain markup, i.e.
>
> true (1) → B<true>(1)
>
> And there is no space between the man page name and the section. If
> another meaning was intended, then we translators misunderstood this
> sentence completly.

Another meaning was intended.

The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (i.e., 1)

Oder: "wenn I<stayopen> wahr (d.h., 1) ist"

Thanks,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Re: Errors in man pages, here: gethostbyname(3): Space/Formatting

[Helge Kreutzmann]

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Hello Michael,
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:01:21PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 21:48, Helge Kreutzmann <debian@helgefjell.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:09:16PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > > Space between true and (1) and mark up
> > > >
> > > > "The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (1), that a "
> > > > "connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the "
> > > > "connection should remain open during successive queries.  Otherwise, name "
> > > > "server queries will use UDP datagrams."
> > >
> > > I don't understand this report. Can you elaborate please.
> >
> > We translator understood the "(1)" as the section number for the man
> > page of true. So actually it should also contain markup, i.e.
> >
> > true (1) → B<true>(1)
> >
> > And there is no space between the man page name and the section. If
> > another meaning was intended, then we translators misunderstood this
> > sentence completly.
> 
> Another meaning was intended.
> 
> The B<sethostent>()  function specifies, if I<stayopen> is true (i.e., 1)
> 
> Oder: "wenn I<stayopen> wahr (d.h., 1) ist"

Thanks / Danke
Corrected / Korrigiert

Greetings

           Helge
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      Dr. Helge Kreutzmann                     debian@helgefjell.de
           Dipl.-Phys.                   http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php
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