Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Helge Kreutzmann]

Dear manpages maintainers.
the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of
man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as
well for a large variety of target languages.

During their work translators notice different possible issues in the
original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward
typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention
not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original.

We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at
least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some
distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss
the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be
already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately
if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and
the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check
each and every issue.

Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format,
i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man,
groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where
possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into
your source format.

Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are
not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the
problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify
them.

I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each
issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If
future reports should use another channel, please let me know.

**

/dev/cpu not on my system

"I</dev/cpu/CPUNUM/msr> provides an interface to read and write the model-"
"specific registers (MSRs) of an x86 CPU.  I<CPUNUM> is the number of the CPU "
"to access as listed in I</proc/cpuinfo>."

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Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

> /dev/cpu not on my system

Maybe this is a Debian thing? I have /dev/cpu on my Fedora system.

Thanks,

Michael

> "I</dev/cpu/CPUNUM/msr> provides an interface to read and write the model-"
> "specific registers (MSRs) of an x86 CPU.  I<CPUNUM> is the number of the CPU "
> "to access as listed in I</proc/cpuinfo>."
>
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>            Dipl.-Phys.                   http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php
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Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Jakub Wilk]

* Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, 2020-04-19, 22:48:
>>/dev/cpu not on my system
>Maybe this is a Debian thing? I have /dev/cpu on my Fedora system.

FWIW, it does exist on my Debian system:

   $ sudo modprobe msr
   $ find /dev/cpu
   /dev/cpu
   /dev/cpu/1
   /dev/cpu/1/msr
   /dev/cpu/0
   /dev/cpu/0/msr

-- 
Jakub Wilk

Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 10:51, Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net> wrote:
>
> * Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, 2020-04-19, 22:48:
> >>/dev/cpu not on my system
> >Maybe this is a Debian thing? I have /dev/cpu on my Fedora system.
>
> FWIW, it does exist on my Debian system:
>
>    $ sudo modprobe msr
>    $ find /dev/cpu
>    /dev/cpu
>    /dev/cpu/1
>    /dev/cpu/1/msr
>    /dev/cpu/0
>    /dev/cpu/0/msr

Thanks, Jakub.

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Helge Kreutzmann]

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Hello Michael,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 09:38:33PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 21:10, Helge Kreutzmann <debian@helgefjell.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:47:38PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > > can read proc as regular user (etch)
> > > >
> > > > "This file is protected so that it can be read and written only by the user "
> > > > "I<root>, or members of the group I<root>."
> > >
> > > I need more context here to find which part of the
> > > page this note refers to.
> >
> > This is the last paragraph before NOTES, i.e. the last one in
> > DESCRIPTION.
> 
> 
> Ooops _ I must have been looking at the wrong file.
> 
> > Having a brief look this FIXME probably is (no) longer correct, but
> > the translator who noticed this 2011 is no longer active, so please
> > close if it is (no longer) applicable.
> 
> Close it, I think. Certainly on my system /dev/cpu/N/msr is readable
> only by root.

Closed, and sorry if some of the reports are obsoleted, I tried to
check but did not always succeed.

Greetings

          Helge
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Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

Hello Helge,

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 21:10, Helge Kreutzmann <debian@helgefjell.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:47:38PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > can read proc as regular user (etch)
> > >
> > > "This file is protected so that it can be read and written only by the user "
> > > "I<root>, or members of the group I<root>."
> >
> > I need more context here to find which part of the
> > page this note refers to.
>
> This is the last paragraph before NOTES, i.e. the last one in
> DESCRIPTION.


Ooops _ I must have been looking at the wrong file.

> Having a brief look this FIXME probably is (no) longer correct, but
> the translator who noticed this 2011 is no longer active, so please
> close if it is (no longer) applicable.

Close it, I think. Certainly on my system /dev/cpu/N/msr is readable
only by root.

Thanks,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Helge Kreutzmann]

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Hello Michael,
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:47:38PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > can read proc as regular user (etch)
> >
> > "This file is protected so that it can be read and written only by the user "
> > "I<root>, or members of the group I<root>."
> 
> I need more context here to find which part of the
> page this note refers to.

This is the last paragraph before NOTES, i.e. the last one in
DESCRIPTION.

Having a brief look this FIXME probably is (no) longer correct, but
the translator who noticed this 2011 is no longer active, so please
close if it is (no longer) applicable.

Thanks

Greetings

        Helge
-- 
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           Dipl.-Phys.                   http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php
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           Help keep free software "libre": http://www.ffii.de/

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Re: Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

> can read proc as regular user (etch)
>
> "This file is protected so that it can be read and written only by the user "
> "I<root>, or members of the group I<root>."

I need more context here to find which part of the
page this note refers to.

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

Errors in man pages, here: msr(4): Content

[Helge Kreutzmann]

Dear manpages maintainers.
the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of
man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as
well for a large variety of target languages.

During their work translators notice different possible issues in the
original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward
typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention
not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original.

We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at
least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some
distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss
the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be
already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately
if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and
the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check
each and every issue.

Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format,
i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man,
groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where
possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into
your source format.

Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are
not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the
problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify
them.

I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each
issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If
future reports should use another channel, please let me know.

**

can read proc as regular user (etch)

"This file is protected so that it can be read and written only by the user "
"I<root>, or members of the group I<root>."

-- 
      Dr. Helge Kreutzmann                     debian@helgefjell.de
           Dipl.-Phys.                   http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php
        64bit GNU powered                     gpg signed mail preferred
           Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/