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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/24] debugfs: Restrict debugfs when the kernel is locked down
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:35:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27818.1524148547@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180413202241.GB4484@amd>

Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:

> >  (1) chmod and chown are disallowed on debugfs objects (though the root dir
> >      can be modified by mount and remount, but I'm not worried about that).
> 
> This has nothing to do with the lockdown goals, right? I find chown of
> such files quite nice, to allow debugging without doing sudo all the time.

It allows someone to give everyone access to files that should perhaps only be
accessible by root.  Besides, if you disable lockdown then you can do this if
you want.

> >  (2) When the kernel is locked down, only files with the following criteria
> >      are permitted to be opened:
> > 
> > 	- The file must have mode 00444
> > 	- The file must not have ioctl methods
> > 	- The file must not have mmap
> 
> Dunno. Would not it be nicer to go through the debugfs files and split
> them into safe/unsafe varieties?

Whilst that is a laudable idea, there are at least a couple of thousand files
to analyse, some of them doing weird stuff in drivers that aren't easy to
understand, and some of them with lists of files, some of which might be safe
and some of which aren't safe.  Even some reads that look like they ought to
be safe have side effects (such as read-and-reset counters).

Besides, define 'safe'.  Is reading a particular reg on a device and returning
the value through a debugfs read safe, for example?  What about files where
reading is harmless, but writing needs to be disallowed?

I did try initially passing in a flag to say whether something was safe or
not, abusing an inode flag to store it since debugfs uses a plain inode
struct, but then I realised just how many ways there are to create debugfs
files and it started to get out of hand.  My initial idea also included
locking everything down by default and marking things unlocked on an as-needed
basis.

If you have the time to audit all these files, then that would be great.

I lean more towards the lock debugfs down entirely side.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-19 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-11 16:24 [PATCH 00/24] security: Add kernel lockdown David Howells
2018-04-11 16:24 ` [PATCH 01/24] Add the ability to lock down access to the running kernel image David Howells
2018-04-11 16:44   ` Jann Horn
2018-04-11 17:37   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-04-11 18:50     ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-04-11 19:56       ` Greg KH
2018-04-11 17:49   ` David Howells
2018-04-11 18:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-11 18:35     ` Justin Forbes
2018-04-11 21:05     ` Jordan Glover
2018-04-11 22:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-12 13:09         ` Justin Forbes
2018-04-12 16:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-12  2:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-04-11 16:24 ` [PATCH 02/24] Add a SysRq option to lift kernel lockdown David Howells
2018-04-11 17:05   ` Jann Horn
2018-04-13 20:22   ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-11 16:24 ` [PATCH 03/24] ima: require secure_boot rules in lockdown mode David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 04/24] Enforce module signatures if the kernel is locked down David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 05/24] Restrict /dev/{mem, kmem, port} when " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 06/24] kexec_load: Disable at runtime if " David Howells
2018-04-11 19:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-11 20:09     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-12 11:38       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-11 20:05   ` David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 07/24] hibernate: Disable when " David Howells
2018-04-13 20:22   ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-19 14:38   ` David Howells
2018-04-22 14:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-04-26  7:26     ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-26  7:34       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-26  8:20       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-05-23  8:46         ` joeyli
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 08/24] uswsusp: " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 09/24] PCI: Lock down BAR access " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 10/24] x86: Lock down IO port " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 11/24] x86/msr: Restrict MSR " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:25 ` [PATCH 12/24] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 13/24] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel param when the kernel has been " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 14/24] acpi: Disable ACPI table override if the kernel is " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 15/24] acpi: Disable APEI error injection " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 16/24] Prohibit PCMCIA CIS storage when " David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 17/24] Lock down TIOCSSERIAL David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 18/24] Lock down module params that specify hardware parameters (eg. ioport) David Howells
2018-04-11 17:22   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 19/24] x86/mmiotrace: Lock down the testmmiotrace module David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 20/24] Lock down /proc/kcore David Howells
2018-04-11 16:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] Lock down kprobes David Howells
2018-04-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 22/24] bpf: Restrict kernel image access functions when the kernel is locked down David Howells
2018-04-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 23/24] Lock down perf David Howells
2018-04-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 24/24] debugfs: Restrict debugfs when the kernel is locked down David Howells
2018-04-11 17:26   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-04-11 18:50   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-11 19:54   ` Greg KH
2018-04-11 20:08   ` David Howells
2018-04-11 20:09   ` David Howells
2018-04-11 20:33     ` Greg KH
2018-04-12  2:54       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-04-12  8:23         ` Greg KH
2018-04-12 14:19           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-04-13 20:22   ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-19 14:35   ` David Howells [this message]
2018-05-10 11:01     ` Pavel Machek

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