* [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
@ 2020-09-23 11:38 Florian Weimer
2020-09-23 11:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-24 1:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2020-09-23 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-man; +Cc: libc-alpha
Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
wrong for la_version.
Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
---
man7/rtld-audit.7 | 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++---------
1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
index b1b7dfebc..ca8afa752 100644
--- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
+++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
@@ -70,17 +70,30 @@ the auditing library.
When invoking this function, the dynamic linker passes, in
.IR version ,
the highest version of the auditing interface that the linker supports.
-If necessary, the auditing library can check that this version
-is sufficient for its requirements.
.PP
-As its function result,
-this function should return the version of the auditing interface
-that this auditing library expects to use (returning
+A typical implementation of this function simply returns the constant
+.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
+which indicates the version of
+.I <link.h>
+that was used to build the audit module. If the dynamic linker does
+not support this version of the audit interface, it will refuse to
+activate this audit module. If the function returns zero, the dynamic
+linker also does not activate this audit module.
+.PP
+In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
+an audit module can examine the
+.I version
+argument and return an earlier version than
+.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
+assuming the module can adjust its implement to match the requirements
+of the previous version of the audit interface. The
+.B la_version
+function should not return the value of
.I version
-is acceptable).
-If the returned value is 0,
-or a version that is greater than that supported by the dynamic linker,
-then the audit library is ignored.
+without further checks because it could correspond to an interface
+that does not match the
+.I <link.h>
+definitions used to build the audit module.
.SS la_objsearch()
\&
.nf
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-23 11:38 [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake Florian Weimer
@ 2020-09-23 11:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-23 11:47 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-24 1:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2020-09-23 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha; +Cc: linux-man, Florian Weimer
On Sep 23 2020, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
> +.PP
> +In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
> +an audit module can examine the
> +.I version
> +argument and return an earlier version than
> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
> +assuming the module can adjust its implement to match the requirements
s/implement/interface/ ?
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-23 11:45 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-09-23 11:47 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-23 11:52 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Florian Weimer @ 2020-09-23 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha, linux-man
* Andreas Schwab:
> On Sep 23 2020, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
>
>> +.PP
>> +In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
>> +an audit module can examine the
>> +.I version
>> +argument and return an earlier version than
>> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
>> +assuming the module can adjust its implement to match the requirements
>
> s/implement/interface/ ?
Thanks. I meant to write “implementation”. Fixed locally.
Do you agree that this is how the handshake should work?
Florian
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-23 11:47 ` Florian Weimer
@ 2020-09-23 11:52 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2020-09-23 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha, linux-man
On Sep 23 2020, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Do you agree that this is how the handshake should work?
I have never seen the audit interface being used, so I have no opinion.
Andreas.
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-23 11:38 [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake Florian Weimer
2020-09-23 11:45 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-09-24 1:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-09-25 8:45 ` Florian Weimer
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From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2020-09-24 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Weimer, linux-man, Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: libc-alpha
On 9/23/20 7:38 AM, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
> Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
> wrong for la_version.
What you write here is the way I understand the interface to work.
As Andreas noted there is one typo.
I suggest changing the example to match, otherwise people might
keep cribbing that code ;-)
> Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
>
I agree that la_version should return LAV_CURRENT, that is the
expected way to implement the function, and returning less than
LAV_CURRENT is required to implement older interfaces and be
more compatible with older releases.
As an example I encouraged Ludovic to solve a Guix path problem
with LD_AUDIT and you can see it here:
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/41189
+unsigned int
+la_version (unsigned int v)
+{
+ if (v != LAV_CURRENT)
+ error (1, 0, "cannot handle interface version %u", v);
+
...
+ return v;
+}
While this is OK, in that if it's not an exact match the audit
module errors out, or if it is a match returns v which is
LAV_CURRENT.
It could have been more relaxed:
if (v < LAV_CURRENT)
error (...)
...
return LAV_CURRENT;
Your changes here int he man page would have clarified that to
some extent.
> ---
> man7/rtld-audit.7 | 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
> index b1b7dfebc..ca8afa752 100644
> --- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
> +++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
> @@ -70,17 +70,30 @@ the auditing library.
> When invoking this function, the dynamic linker passes, in
> .IR version ,
> the highest version of the auditing interface that the linker supports.
> -If necessary, the auditing library can check that this version
> -is sufficient for its requirements.
> .PP
> -As its function result,
> -this function should return the version of the auditing interface
> -that this auditing library expects to use (returning
> +A typical implementation of this function simply returns the constant
> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
> +which indicates the version of
> +.I <link.h>
> +that was used to build the audit module. If the dynamic linker does
> +not support this version of the audit interface, it will refuse to
> +activate this audit module. If the function returns zero, the dynamic
> +linker also does not activate this audit module.
> +.PP
> +In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
> +an audit module can examine the
> +.I version
> +argument and return an earlier version than
> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
> +assuming the module can adjust its implement to match the requirements
s/implement/implementation/g (Andreas caught this in his review)
> +of the previous version of the audit interface. The
> +.B la_version
> +function should not return the value of
> .I version
> -is acceptable).
> -If the returned value is 0,
> -or a version that is greater than that supported by the dynamic linker,
> -then the audit library is ignored.
> +without further checks because it could correspond to an interface
> +that does not match the
> +.I <link.h>
> +definitions used to build the audit module.
> .SS la_objsearch()
> \&
> .nf
>
May I additionally suggest something like this to the example?
diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
index b1b7dfebc..8a4008b2a 100644
--- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
+++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
@@ -510,7 +510,11 @@ la_version(unsigned int version)
{
printf("la_version(): %u\en", version);
- return version;
+ if (version > LAV_CURRENT)
+ printf ("la_version(): rtld supports newer interfaces.\n");
+
+ /* Request the version we knew about at compile time. */
+ return LAV_CURRENT;
}
char *
---
Post a v2?
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Cheers,
Carlos.
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-24 1:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
@ 2020-09-25 8:45 ` Florian Weimer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2020-09-25 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carlos O'Donell; +Cc: linux-man, Ludovic Courtès, libc-alpha
* Carlos O'Donell:
> May I additionally suggest something like this to the example?
Ah, I had missed the example at the end. Yes, I'm going to send a v2.
Thanks,
Florian
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-25 16:14 ` Carlos O'Donell
@ 2020-09-25 17:17 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2020-09-25 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carlos O'Donell; +Cc: Florian Weimer, linux-man, libc-alpha
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 18:14, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/25/20 6:47 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > On 9/25/20 10:48 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
> >> wrong for la_version.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
> >
> > Hello Florian,
> >
> > I've applied this patch locally. I'll merge into master
> > in a few hours. Perhaps in the meantime there are acks/reviews
> > that come in.
>
> Just for the record. This version looks good to me and addresses
> my previous comments.
>
> Reviewed-by: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Thanks, Carlos!
Cheers,
Michael
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-25 10:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2020-09-25 16:14 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-09-25 17:17 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2020-09-25 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages), Florian Weimer, linux-man; +Cc: libc-alpha
On 9/25/20 6:47 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 9/25/20 10:48 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
>> wrong for la_version.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
>
> Hello Florian,
>
> I've applied this patch locally. I'll merge into master
> in a few hours. Perhaps in the meantime there are acks/reviews
> that come in.
Just for the record. This version looks good to me and addresses
my previous comments.
Reviewed-by: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
>> ---
>> man7/rtld-audit.7 | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
>> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
>> index b1b7dfebc..21cc339d0 100644
>> --- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
>> +++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
>> @@ -70,17 +70,30 @@ the auditing library.
>> When invoking this function, the dynamic linker passes, in
>> .IR version ,
>> the highest version of the auditing interface that the linker supports.
>> -If necessary, the auditing library can check that this version
>> -is sufficient for its requirements.
>> .PP
>> -As its function result,
>> -this function should return the version of the auditing interface
>> -that this auditing library expects to use (returning
>> +A typical implementation of this function simply returns the constant
>> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
>> +which indicates the version of
>> +.I <link.h>
>> +that was used to build the audit module. If the dynamic linker does
>> +not support this version of the audit interface, it will refuse to
>> +activate this audit module. If the function returns zero, the dynamic
>> +linker also does not activate this audit module.
>> +.PP
>> +In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
>> +an audit module can examine the
>> +.I version
>> +argument and return an earlier version than
>> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
>> +assuming the module can adjust its implementation to match the
>> +requirements of the previous version of the audit interface. The
>> +.B la_version
>> +function should not return the value of
>> .I version
>> -is acceptable).
>> -If the returned value is 0,
>> -or a version that is greater than that supported by the dynamic linker,
>> -then the audit library is ignored.
>> +without further checks because it could correspond to an interface
>> +that does not match the
>> +.I <link.h>
>> +definitions used to build the audit module.
>> .SS la_objsearch()
>> \&
>> .nf
>> @@ -508,9 +521,10 @@ This is reportedly fixed in glibc 2.10.
>> unsigned int
>> la_version(unsigned int version)
>> {
>> - printf("la_version(): %u\en", version);
>> + printf("la_version(): version = %u; LAV_CURRENT = %u\en",
>> + version, LAV_CURRENT);
>>
>> - return version;
>> + return LAV_CURRENT;
>> }
>>
>> char *
>>
>
>
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* Re: [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
2020-09-25 8:48 Florian Weimer
@ 2020-09-25 10:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-25 16:14 ` Carlos O'Donell
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2020-09-25 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Weimer, linux-man; +Cc: mtk.manpages, libc-alpha, Carlos O'Donell
On 9/25/20 10:48 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
> wrong for la_version.
>
> Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Hello Florian,
I've applied this patch locally. I'll merge into master
in a few hours. Perhaps in the meantime there are acks/reviews
that come in.
Cheers,
Michael
> ---
> man7/rtld-audit.7 | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
> index b1b7dfebc..21cc339d0 100644
> --- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
> +++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
> @@ -70,17 +70,30 @@ the auditing library.
> When invoking this function, the dynamic linker passes, in
> .IR version ,
> the highest version of the auditing interface that the linker supports.
> -If necessary, the auditing library can check that this version
> -is sufficient for its requirements.
> .PP
> -As its function result,
> -this function should return the version of the auditing interface
> -that this auditing library expects to use (returning
> +A typical implementation of this function simply returns the constant
> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
> +which indicates the version of
> +.I <link.h>
> +that was used to build the audit module. If the dynamic linker does
> +not support this version of the audit interface, it will refuse to
> +activate this audit module. If the function returns zero, the dynamic
> +linker also does not activate this audit module.
> +.PP
> +In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
> +an audit module can examine the
> +.I version
> +argument and return an earlier version than
> +.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
> +assuming the module can adjust its implementation to match the
> +requirements of the previous version of the audit interface. The
> +.B la_version
> +function should not return the value of
> .I version
> -is acceptable).
> -If the returned value is 0,
> -or a version that is greater than that supported by the dynamic linker,
> -then the audit library is ignored.
> +without further checks because it could correspond to an interface
> +that does not match the
> +.I <link.h>
> +definitions used to build the audit module.
> .SS la_objsearch()
> \&
> .nf
> @@ -508,9 +521,10 @@ This is reportedly fixed in glibc 2.10.
> unsigned int
> la_version(unsigned int version)
> {
> - printf("la_version(): %u\en", version);
> + printf("la_version(): version = %u; LAV_CURRENT = %u\en",
> + version, LAV_CURRENT);
>
> - return version;
> + return LAV_CURRENT;
> }
>
> char *
>
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* [PATCH] rtld-audit.7: Clarify la_version handshake
@ 2020-09-25 8:48 Florian Weimer
2020-09-25 10:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2020-09-25 8:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-man; +Cc: libc-alpha, Carlos O'Donell
Returning its argument without further checks is almost always
wrong for la_version.
Signed-off-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
---
man7/rtld-audit.7 | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/man7/rtld-audit.7 b/man7/rtld-audit.7
index b1b7dfebc..21cc339d0 100644
--- a/man7/rtld-audit.7
+++ b/man7/rtld-audit.7
@@ -70,17 +70,30 @@ the auditing library.
When invoking this function, the dynamic linker passes, in
.IR version ,
the highest version of the auditing interface that the linker supports.
-If necessary, the auditing library can check that this version
-is sufficient for its requirements.
.PP
-As its function result,
-this function should return the version of the auditing interface
-that this auditing library expects to use (returning
+A typical implementation of this function simply returns the constant
+.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
+which indicates the version of
+.I <link.h>
+that was used to build the audit module. If the dynamic linker does
+not support this version of the audit interface, it will refuse to
+activate this audit module. If the function returns zero, the dynamic
+linker also does not activate this audit module.
+.PP
+In order to enable backwards compatibility with older dynamic linkers,
+an audit module can examine the
+.I version
+argument and return an earlier version than
+.BR LAV_CURRENT ,
+assuming the module can adjust its implementation to match the
+requirements of the previous version of the audit interface. The
+.B la_version
+function should not return the value of
.I version
-is acceptable).
-If the returned value is 0,
-or a version that is greater than that supported by the dynamic linker,
-then the audit library is ignored.
+without further checks because it could correspond to an interface
+that does not match the
+.I <link.h>
+definitions used to build the audit module.
.SS la_objsearch()
\&
.nf
@@ -508,9 +521,10 @@ This is reportedly fixed in glibc 2.10.
unsigned int
la_version(unsigned int version)
{
- printf("la_version(): %u\en", version);
+ printf("la_version(): version = %u; LAV_CURRENT = %u\en",
+ version, LAV_CURRENT);
- return version;
+ return LAV_CURRENT;
}
char *
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