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From: Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com,
	hans.verkuil@cisco.com, jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/13] dt-bindings: connector: analog: add tv norms property
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:01:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190819090146.dguqzy7w7clk67ny@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14e1593c-0d90-f242-9ab9-598a1005dbb8@xs4all.nl>

On 19-08-19 10:39, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 8/19/19 10:09 AM, Marco Felsch wrote:
> > Hi Hans,
> > 
> > On 19-08-16 13:11, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >> On 8/15/19 1:57 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
> >>> Some connectors no matter if in- or output supports only a limited
> >>> range of tv norms. It doesn't matter if the hardware behind that
> >>> connector supports more than the listed formats since the users are
> >>> restriced by a label e.g. to plug only a camera into this connector
> >>> which uses the PAL format.
> >>>
> >>> This patch adds the capability to describe such limitation within the
> >>> firmware. There are no format restrictions if the property isn't
> >>> present, so it's completely backward compatible.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
> >>> ---
> >>> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10794703/
> >>>
> >>> v7:
> >>> I kept Robs r b tag because I only changed the example and extended
> >>> TVNORM_* macros.
> >>>
> >>> - fix some style issues
> >>> - add TVNORM_NTSC, TVNORM_525_60 and TVNORM_625_50
> >>>
> >>> v6:
> >>> - tvnorms.h: use tabs instead of spaces
> >>> - tvnorms.h: add TVNORM_PAL and TVNORM_SECAM
> >>> - tvnorms.h: drop rarely used TVNORM_ATSC_* norms
> >>>
> >>> v2-v4:
> >>> - nothing since the patch was squashed from series [1] into this
> >>>   series.
> >>> ---
> >>>  .../display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt |  4 ++
> >>>  include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h           | 72 +++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  2 files changed, 76 insertions(+)
> >>>  create mode 100644 include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> >>> index 0c0970c210ab..434e8aa0398b 100644
> >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> >>> @@ -6,6 +6,9 @@ Required properties:
> >>>  
> >>>  Optional properties:
> >>>  - label: a symbolic name for the connector
> >>> +- tvnorms: limit the supported tv norms on a connector to the given ones else
> >>
> >> tv -> TV
> >>
> >>> +           all tv norms are allowed. Possible video standards are defined in
> >>
> >> tv -> TV
> > 
> > Changed both thanks.
> > 
> >> And a more high-level question: I think tvnorm is a very vague name. It's a term
> >> used in media, but what does 'norm' mean anyway? 'tv_standards' or 'video_standards'
> >> would be a lot more descriptive.
> > 
> > I'm with you *_standards would be more descriptive. Now the question is:
> > is it a video or a tv standard? Wikipedia says that SECAM, PAL, NTSC is
> > a television standard. So I prefer the 'tv_standards' or better the
> > 'tv-standards' approach.
> 
> It's a bit of both, actually. But in the context of S-Video and Composite connectors
> it is a video standard. In the context of a tuner/modulator it would be a TV standard.
> 
> I.e. there is no difference between PAL_B and PAL_[GHIDJ] when it comes to S-Video and
> Composite connectors, but in the context of a tuner/modulator these defines give
> additional information about transmission bands, etc.
> 
> That said, I think video-standards is too vague, but so is tv-standards. How about
> sdtv-standards? I think that makes a lot of sense since this is really just for SDTV.

Yes, thats a good name.

> So tvnorms.h becomes sdtv-standards.h.

Of course.

> > 
> >> 'tvnorm' is, I think, a term used only internally in the media subsystem for no
> >> clear reason. In the V4L2 spec it talks about 'video standard'.
> >>
> >> Sorry for being so late with raising this issue.
> >>
> >>> +           include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h.
> >>>  
> >>>  Required nodes:
> >>>  - Video port for TV input
> >>> @@ -16,6 +19,7 @@ Example
> >>>  tv: connector {
> >>>  	compatible = "composite-video-connector";
> >>>  	label = "tv";
> >>> +	tvnorms = <(TVNORM_PAL | TVNORM_NTSC)>;
> >>>  
> >>>  	port {
> >>>  		tv_connector_in: endpoint {
> >>> diff --git a/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h b/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> >>> new file mode 100644
> >>> index 000000000000..e1275673c4d6
> >>> --- /dev/null
> >>> +++ b/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> >>> @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@
> >>> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only or X11 */
> >>> +/*
> >>> + * Copyright 2019 Pengutronix, Marco Felsch <kernel@pengutronix.de>
> >>> + */
> >>> +
> >>> +#ifndef _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H
> >>> +#define _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H
> >>> +
> >>> +/* One bit for each standard */
> >>
> >> I would add a comment here and in videodev2.h where you mention that
> >> the two headers should remain in sync.
> > 
> > Yes, good point.
> > 
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_B		0x00000001
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_B1		0x00000002
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_G		0x00000004
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_H		0x00000008
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_I		0x00000010
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_D		0x00000020
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_D1		0x00000040
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_K		0x00000080
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL		(TVNORM_PAL_B		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_B1		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_G		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_H		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_I		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_D		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_D1		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_K)
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_M		0x00000100
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_N		0x00000200
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_Nc		0x00000400
> >>> +#define TVNORM_PAL_60		0x00000800
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M		0x00001000	/* BTSC */
> >>> +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M_JP	0x00002000	/* EIA-J */
> >>> +#define TVNORM_NTSC_443		0x00004000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M_KR	0x00008000	/* FM A2 */
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_NTSC		(TVNORM_NTSC_M		|\
> >>> +				 TVNORM_NTSC_M_JP	|\
> >>
> >> Add space before \
> >>
> >>> +				 TVNORM_NTSC_M_KR)
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_B		0x00010000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_D		0x00020000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_G		0x00040000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_H		0x00080000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_K		0x00100000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_K1		0x00200000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_L		0x00400000
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM_LC		0x00800000
> >>> +
> >>> +#define TVNORM_SECAM		(TVNORM_SECAM_B		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_D		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_G		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_H		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_K		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_K1	| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_L		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM_LC)
> >>> +
> >>> +/* Standards for Countries with 60Hz Line frequency */
> >>> +#define TVNORM_525_60		(TVNORM_PAL_M		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_60		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_NTSC		| \
> >>> +				 TVNORM_NTSC_443)
> >>> +
> >>> +/* Standards for Countries with 50Hz Line frequency */
> >>> +#define TVNORM_625_50		(TVNORM_PAL		|\
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_N		|\
> >>> +				 TVNORM_PAL_Nc		|\
> >>
> >> Add space before \
> > 
> > Both space errors fixed.
> > 
> >>> +				 TVNORM_SECAM)
> >>> +
> >>> +#endif /* _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H */
> >>>
> >>
> >> I was also wondering if this header shouldn't be in include/dt-bindings/display/
> >> since the bindings are also described in 'display'.
> > 
> > That's a good one and I really don't know which is the 'right' place for
> > it. Since the standard has nothing to do with a display I would keep it
> > within media. But the radeon [1] gpu uses the stds too. So I really
> > don't know which place is better.
> 
> Move it to display: that matches where the documentation is.

Okay.

> 
> Note that this means that _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H also becomes
> _DT_BINDINGS_DISPLAY_TVNORMS_H (or DISPLAY_SDTV_STANDARDS_H).

Yes.

Last question. I replaced TVNORM_* by TV_STD_*. Should I move to
SDTV_STD_* too?

Regards,
  Marco

> Regards,
> 
> 	Hans
> 
> > 
> > [1] drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_mode.h. 
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   Marco
> > 
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> 	Hans
> >>
> > 
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-19  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-15 11:57 [PATCH v7 00/13] Add TVP5150 features Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] dt-bindings: connector: analog: add tv norms property Marco Felsch
2019-08-16 11:11   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19  8:09     ` Marco Felsch
2019-08-19  8:18       ` Marco Felsch
2019-08-19  8:41         ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19  8:39       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19  9:01         ` Marco Felsch [this message]
2019-08-19  9:06           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] media: v4l2-fwnode: add v4l2_fwnode_connector Marco Felsch
2019-08-16 10:59   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19  9:17     ` Marco Felsch
2019-08-19  9:18       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] media: v4l2-fwnode: add initial connector parsing support Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] partial revert of "[media] tvp5150: add HW input connectors support" Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] media: tvp5150: add input source selection of_graph support Marco Felsch
2019-08-19  6:20   ` Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] media: dt-bindings: tvp5150: Add input port connectors DT bindings Marco Felsch
2019-08-16 21:01   ` Rob Herring
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] media: tvp5150: add FORMAT_TRY support for get/set selection handlers Marco Felsch
2019-08-16 11:27   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-19 10:40     ` Marco Felsch
2019-08-19 10:41       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] media: tvp5150: initialize subdev before parsing device tree Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] media: tvp5150: add s_power callback Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] media: dt-bindings: tvp5150: cleanup bindings stlye Marco Felsch
2019-08-16 11:28   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] media: dt-bindings: tvp5150: add optional tvnorms documentation Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] media: tvp5150: add support to limit tv norms on connector Marco Felsch
2019-08-15 11:57 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] media: tvp5150: make debug output more readable Marco Felsch

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