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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: geoff@hostfission.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	"Dmitry Morozov" <dmitry.morozov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: guest / host buffer sharing ...
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:22:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191108072210.ywyneaoc2y4slth6@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QXG5Z3zCnPL+Y7EQfCeey2Fb9OdPdx531Jz2Ofk63wndg@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi,

> > Adding a list of common properties to the spec certainly makes sense,
> > so everybody uses the same names.  Adding struct-ed properties for
> > common use cases might be useful too.
> 
> Why not define VIRTIO devices for wayland and friends?

There is an out-of-tree implementation of that, so yes, that surely is
an option.

Wayland needs (a) shared buffers, mostly for gfx data, and (b) a stream
pipe as control channel.  Pretty much the same for X11, except that
shared buffers are optional because the X protocol can also squeeze all
display updates through the stream pipe.

So, if you want allow guests talk to the host display server you can run
the stream pipe over vsock.  But there is nothing for the shared
buffers ...

We could replicate vsock functionality elsewhere.  I think that happened
in the out-of-tree virtio-wayland implementation.  There also was some
discussion about adding streams to virtio-gpu, slightly pimped up so you
can easily pass around virtio-gpu resource references for buffer
sharing.  But given that getting vsock right isn't exactly trivial
(consider all the fairness issues when multiplexing multiple streams
over a virtqueue for example) I don't think this is a good plan.

cheers,
  Gerd


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-08  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-05 10:54 guest / host buffer sharing Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-05 11:35 ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-06  6:24   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  8:36 ` David Stevens
2019-11-06 12:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 22:28     ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-07  6:48       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-20 12:13       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 21:41         ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-21  5:51           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-04 22:22             ` Dylan Reid
2019-12-11  5:08               ` David Stevens
2019-12-11  9:26                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-11 16:05                   ` [virtio-dev] " Enrico Granata
2019-12-12  6:40                   ` David Stevens
2019-12-12  9:41                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12 12:26                       ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 13:30                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-13  3:21                           ` David Stevens
2019-12-16 13:47                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-17 12:59                               ` David Stevens
2019-11-06  8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06  9:51   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 10:10     ` [virtio-dev] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-07 11:11       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 11:16         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-08  6:45           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 11:46     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06 12:50       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 12:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-08  7:22           ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2019-11-08  7:35             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09  1:41               ` Stéphane Marchesin
2019-11-09 10:12                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 11:16                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 12:08                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 15:12                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-18 10:20                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-20 10:11                           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]           ` <CAEkmjvU8or7YT7CCBe7aUx-XQ3yJpUrY4CfBOnqk7pUH9d9RGQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-20 11:58             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:11     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-11  3:04   ` David Stevens
2019-11-11 15:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12  0:54       ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12 13:56         ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 22:55           ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-19 15:31             ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-20  0:42               ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-20  9:53               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-25 16:46                 ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-27  7:58                   ` Gerd Hoffmann

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