linux-mips.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Till Smejkal <till.smejkal@googlemail.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Steven Miao <realmz6@gmail.com>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Osciak <pawel@osciak.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@atmel.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	Nadia Yvette Chambers <nyc@holomorphy.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-metag@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-sh@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] Introduce first class virtual address spaces
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:09:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170315220952.GA1435@intel.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20170315220953.0gIYyFR6FHDGuIx55vtlJQskByAFsYLY_pKxmHhE_n0@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170315220234.mooiyrzqdsglo4lp@arch-dev>

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:02:34PM -0700, Till Smejkal wrote:
> I don't agree here. VAS segments are basically in-memory files that are handled by
> the kernel directly without using a file system. Hence, if an application uses a VAS
> segment to store data the same rules apply as if it uses a file. Everything that it
> saves in the VAS segment might be accessible by other applications. An application
> using VAS segments should be aware of this fact. In addition, the resources that are
> represented by a VAS segment are not leaked. As I said, VAS segments are much like
> files. Hence, if you don't want to use them any more, delete them. But as with files,
> the kernel will not delete them for you (although something like this can be added).

So how do they differ from shmget(2), shmat(2), shmdt(2), shmctl(2)?

Apart from VAS having better names, instead of silly "key_t key" ones.

-Tony

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-15 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-13 22:14 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Introduce first class virtual address spaces Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] mm: Add mm_struct argument to 'mmap_region' Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] mm: Add mm_struct argument to 'do_mmap' and 'do_mmap_pgoff' Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] mm: Rename 'unmap_region' and add mm_struct argument Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] mm: Add mm_struct argument to 'get_unmapped_area' and 'vm_unmapped_area' Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] mm: Add mm_struct argument to 'mm_populate' and '__mm_populate' Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] mm/mmap: Export 'vma_link' and 'find_vma_links' to mm subsystem Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] kernel/fork: Split and export 'mm_alloc' and 'mm_init' Till Smejkal
2017-03-14 10:18   ` David Laight
2017-03-14 10:18     ` David Laight
2017-03-14 16:18     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14 16:18       ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] kernel/fork: Define explicitly which mm_struct to duplicate during fork Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] mm/memory: Add function to one-to-one duplicate page ranges Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] mm: Introduce first class virtual address spaces Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 23:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-03-14  0:24     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  1:35   ` Vineet Gupta
2017-03-14  1:35     ` Vineet Gupta
2017-03-14  2:34     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] mm/vas: Introduce VAS segments - shareable address space regions Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:27   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-13 22:45     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] mm/vas: Add lazy-attach support for first class virtual address spaces Till Smejkal
2017-03-13 22:14 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] fs/proc: Add procfs " Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  0:18 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Richard Henderson
2017-03-14  0:39   ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  1:02     ` Richard Henderson
2017-03-14  1:31       ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  0:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-14  0:58   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-14  2:07   ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  2:07     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14  5:37     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-14  5:37       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-14 16:12       ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14 16:12         ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14 19:53         ` Chris Metcalf
2017-03-14 19:53           ` Chris Metcalf
2017-03-14 21:14           ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-14 21:14             ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 16:51         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-15 16:51           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-15 16:57           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-15 16:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-15 19:44           ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 19:44             ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 19:47             ` Rich Felker
2017-03-15 19:47               ` Rich Felker
2017-03-15 21:30               ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 21:30                 ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 20:06             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-15 20:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-15 22:02               ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 22:02                 ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 22:09                 ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2017-03-15 22:09                   ` Luck, Tony
2017-03-15 23:18                   ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-15 23:18                     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-16  8:21                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-16  8:21                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-16 17:29                   ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-16 17:29                     ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-16 17:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-16 17:42                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-16 17:50                       ` Till Smejkal
2017-03-16 17:50                         ` Till Smejkal

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20170315220952.GA1435@intel.com \
    --to=tony.luck@intel.com \
    --cc=acme@kernel.org \
    --cc=adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=alsa-devel@alsa-project.org \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=balbi@kernel.org \
    --cc=bcrl@kvack.org \
    --cc=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=bfields@fieldses.org \
    --cc=boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=chris@zankel.net \
    --cc=cmetcalf@mellanox.com \
    --cc=computersforpeace@gmail.com \
    --cc=cyrille.pitchen@atmel.com \
    --cc=dalias@libc.org \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=deller@gmx.de \
    --cc=dwmw2@infradead.org \
    --cc=fenghua.yu@intel.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=hughd@google.com \
    --cc=ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru \
    --cc=james.hogan@imgtec.com \
    --cc=jcmvbkbc@gmail.com \
    --cc=jejb@parisc-linux.org \
    --cc=jlayton@poochiereds.net \
    --cc=kyungmin.park@samsung.com \
    --cc=laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com \
    --cc=linux-aio@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-api@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-media@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-metag@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mips@linux-mips.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-s390@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-sh@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org \
    --cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
    --cc=linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org \
    --cc=luto@amacapital.net \
    --cc=luto@kernel.org \
    --cc=m.szyprowski@samsung.com \
    --cc=marek.vasut@gmail.com \
    --cc=mattst88@gmail.com \
    --cc=mchehab@kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=mpe@ellerman.id.au \
    --cc=nyc@holomorphy.com \
    --cc=paulus@samba.org \
    --cc=pawel@osciak.com \
    --cc=perex@perex.cz \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=ralf@linux-mips.org \
    --cc=realmz6@gmail.com \
    --cc=richard@nod.at \
    --cc=rkuo@codeaurora.org \
    --cc=rth@twiddle.net \
    --cc=schwidefsky@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=sparclinux@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=till.smejkal@googlemail.com \
    --cc=tiwai@suse.com \
    --cc=vgupta@synopsys.com \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=will.deacon@arm.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=ysato@users.sourceforge.jp \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).