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From: Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>
To: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
Cc: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	MIPS Creator CI20 Development 
	<mips-creator-ci20-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Discussions about the Letux Kernel 
	<letux-kernel@openphoenux.org>
Subject: Re: MIPS: bug: gettimeofday syscall broken on CI20 board
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:21:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b6275c7-ab2b-a647-6bf7-d5e1c4523c98@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AD919A0B-2629-4E8A-8A7A-1E4A868F8BC4@goldelico.com>

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On 28/11/2019 12:11, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> 
>> Am 28.11.2019 um 12:51 schrieb Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>:
>>
>> Hi Nikolaus,
>>
>> On 27/11/2019 13:53, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>> vdso_data and mips_vdso_data before are not part of the ABI hence they are not
>>>> bind by a contract with the userspace.
>>>>
>>>> This means that they can change at any point and if a userspace software relies
>>>> on a specific layout of these data structures is doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> Maybe the libs are clever enough to find that out dynamically but I have no
>>> idea about how gettimeofday() and user-space VDSO is implemented to handle such
>>> changes.
>>>
>> As I said userspace applications and libraries should not rely on the layout of
>> vdso_data because this is not part of the ABI.
>>
>> The only thing that userspace requires is to "know" that gettimeofday() exists,
>> than it is gettimeofday() that internally accesses the data structure.
> 
> Well, with user-space I include the lib that provides the gettimeofday() syscall
> and reads out the memory region where the VDSO data structure is provided by the
> kernel. And that part comes from Debian. Somehow it does differently with 4.19
> than 5.4. So I summarise all non-kernel code with the term "user-space".
> 

The the lib that provides the gettimeofday() changes accordingly with vdso_data.
5.4 and 4.19 have 2 different vdso libraries as well.

> BR,
> Nikolaus
> 

-- 
Regards,
Vincenzo

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-28 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07 16:21 MIPS: bug: gettimeofday syscall broken on CI20 board? H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-17 13:14 ` MIPS: bug: gettimeofday syscall broken on CI20 board H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-23  7:29   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-26 10:52   ` MIPS: " Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-27 13:53     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-27 14:29       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 12:05         ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-28 12:16           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 14:04             ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-28 15:10               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 11:51       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-28 12:11         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 12:21           ` Vincenzo Frascino [this message]
2019-11-28 12:33             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 13:29               ` Maarten ter Huurne
2019-11-28 13:48                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 14:01                   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-28 15:42                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 15:07                   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2019-11-28 15:41                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-28 15:46                       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-28 16:47                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-11-29  8:57                           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-29 10:53                             ` Vincenzo Frascino
2019-11-29 11:51                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2019-12-01  3:08                         ` [PATCH] Mips32 gettimeofday fix kbuild test robot

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