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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Allocate memmap from the added memory range
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:53:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e735ea7-b3d9-615e-6bba-fa3a16883226@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YF3x8BW1+2o50mds@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 26.03.21 15:38, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 26-03-21 09:52:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> [...]
>> Something else to note:
>>
>>
>> We'll not call the memory notifier (e.g., MEM_ONLINE) for the vmemmap. The
>> result is that
>>
>> 1. We won't allocate extended struct pages for the range. Don't think this
>> is really problematic (pages are never allocated/freed, so I guess we don't
>> care - like ZONE_DEVICE code).
> 
> Agreed. I do not think we need them. Future might disagree but let's
> handle it when we have a clear demand.
> 
>> 2. We won't allocate kasan shadow memory. We most probably have to do it
>> explicitly via kasan_add_zero_shadow()/kasan_remove_zero_shadow(), see
>> mm/memremap.c:pagemap_range()
> 
> I think this is similar to the above. Does kasan has to know about
> memory which will never be used for anything?

IIRC, kasan will track read/writes to the vmemmap as well. So it could 
theoretically detect if we read from the vmemmap before writing 
(initializing) it IIUC.

This is also why mm/memremap.c does a kasan_add_zero_shadow() before the 
move_pfn_range_to_zone()->memmap_init_range() for the whole region, 
including altmap space.

Now, I am no expert on KASAN, what would happen in case we have access 
to non-tracked memory.

commit 0207df4fa1a869281ddbf72db6203dbf036b3e1a
Author: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri Aug 17 15:47:04 2018 -0700

     kernel/memremap, kasan: make ZONE_DEVICE with work with KASAN

indicates that kasan will crash the system on "non-existent shadow memory"

> 
>> Further a locking rework might be necessary. We hold the device hotplug
>> lock, but not the memory hotplug lock. E.g., for get_online_mems(). Might
>> have to move that out online_pages.
> 
> Could you be more explicit why this locking is needed? What it would
> protect from for vmemmap pages?
> 

One example is in mm/kmemleak.c:kmemleak_scan(), where we scan the 
vmemmap for pointers. We don't want the vmemmap to get unmapped while we 
are working on it (-> fault).

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-26 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19  9:26 [PATCH v5 0/5] Allocate memmap from hotadded memory (per device) Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Allocate memmap from the added memory range Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 10:20   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-19 10:31     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 12:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-23 10:11   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 10:12     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 12:03       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:10         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 12:37             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 13:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:27         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 14:42         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 16:04             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 19:16               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25  8:07                 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25  9:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 10:55                     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 11:08                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 11:23                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 12:35                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 12:40                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:09                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:46                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:12                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:19                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:35                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:40                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:07                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:20                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:36                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:47                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:55                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 22:06                                                   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  8:35                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26  8:52                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:57                                                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 12:15                                                           ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 13:36                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26 14:38                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26 14:53                                                           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-03-26 15:31                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26 16:03                                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:55                                                       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  9:11                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 18:08                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 12:26                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:02                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 14:40                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] acpi,memhotplug: Enable MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY when supported Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:40   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Add kernel boot option to enable memmap_on_memory Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:47   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24  8:45     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24  9:02       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] x86/Kconfig: Introduce ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] arm64/Kconfig: " Oscar Salvador

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