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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Add kernel boot option to enable memmap_on_memory
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:02:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFsAQxZFCE0L3Sor@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210324084457.GA16560@linux>

On Wed 24-03-21 09:45:01, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:47:53AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 19-03-21 10:26:33, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> > > Self stored memmap leads to a sparse memory situation which is unsuitable
> > > for workloads that requires large contiguous memory chunks, so make this
> > > an opt-in which needs to be explicitly enabled.
> > > 
> > > To control this, let memory_hotplug have its own memory space, as suggested
> > > by David, so we can add memory_hotplug.memmap_on_memory parameter.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
> > > Reviewed-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > 
> > I would just rephrased the help text to be less low level
> ...
> > 			When enabled, runtime hotplugged memory will
> > 			allocate its internal metadata (struct pages)
> > 			from the hotadded memory which will allow to
> > 			hotadd a lot of memory without requiring
> > 			additional memory to do so.
> > 			This feature is disabled by default because it
> > 			has some implication on large (e.g. GB)
> > 			allocations in some configurations (e.g. small
> > 			memory blocks).
> 
> Ok, this sounds good as well, and I guess it might suit best for what admin-guide
> is about.
> 
> > The memmap_on_memory can be dropped from the 1st patch IIUC and only
> > introduce it now.
> 
> It could be done, and I __think__ in some previous persion it was that way, but
> I am leaning to not do it.
> In the 1st patch, memmap_on_memory is false by default, so I see it as a preparatory
> step for later (this patchset) till it might be enabled.
> 
> Moreover, the big comment from mhp_support_memmap_on_memory() should change to not
> mention it, and change here again to reflect it.
> 
> All in all, I think it can stay, but maybe place a comment in the 1st patch above
> the variable saying something like "This is a noop now, it will be enabled later on"

I will leave that up to you. This is likely not worth a larger
discussion but it seems quite pointless to add a variable which never
changes. The resulting code might look different than you expect because
compiler is allowed to simply drop the whole condition.
 
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > > + * memory_hotplug.memmap_on_memory parameter
> > > + */
> > > +static bool memmap_on_memory __ro_after_init;
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY
> > > +module_param(memmap_on_memory, bool, 0444);
> > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(memmap_on_memory, "Enable memmap on memory for memory hotplug");
> > > +#endif
> > 
> > I am not very much familiar with the machinery. Does this expose the
> > state to the userspace?
> 
> Kind of:
> 
> # ls /sys/module/memory_hotplug/parameters
> memmap_on_memory
> # cat /sys/module/memory_hotplug/parameters/memmap_on_memory 
> Y
> 
> But that is not really the state, but rather it shows whether the user
> opted-in the feature by passing "memory_hotplug.memmap_on_memory=yes".
> It might be that the user opted-in the feature, but it cannot be used at
> at runtime (e.g: mhp_support_memmap_on_memory() return false due to size !=
> memory_block_size())

Thanks for the clarification.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19  9:26 [PATCH v5 0/5] Allocate memmap from hotadded memory (per device) Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Allocate memmap from the added memory range Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 10:20   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-19 10:31     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 12:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-23 10:11   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 10:12     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 12:03       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:10         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 12:37             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 13:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:27         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 14:42         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 16:04             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 19:16               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25  8:07                 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25  9:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 10:55                     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 11:08                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 11:23                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 12:35                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 12:40                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:09                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:46                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:12                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:19                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:35                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:40                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:07                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:20                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:36                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:47                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:55                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 22:06                                                   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  8:35                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26  8:52                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:57                                                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 12:15                                                           ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 13:36                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26 14:38                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26 14:53                                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26 15:31                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26 16:03                                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:55                                                       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  9:11                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 18:08                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 12:26                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:02                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 14:40                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] acpi,memhotplug: Enable MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY when supported Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:40   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Add kernel boot option to enable memmap_on_memory Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:47   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24  8:45     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24  9:02       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] x86/Kconfig: Introduce ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] arm64/Kconfig: " Oscar Salvador

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