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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	YASUAKI ISHIMATSU <yasu.isimatu@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Dave <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: NUMA stats code cleanup and enhancement
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:56:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171128135653.608f4350f4245a633823f5e9@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9nmjlfv.fsf@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:40:52 -0800 Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> writes:
> >
> > I'm worried about the "for_each_possible..." approach here and elsewhere
> > in the patch as it can be rather excessive compared to the online number
> > of cpus (we've seen BIOSes report large numbers of possible CPU's). IIRC
> 
> Even if they report a few hundred extra reading some more shared cache lines
> is very cheap. The prefetcher usually quickly figures out such a pattern
> and reads it all in parallel.
> 
> I doubt it will be noticeable, especially not in a slow path
> like reading something from proc/sys.

We say that, then a few years it comes back and bites us on our
trailing edges.

> > the general approach with vmstat is to query just online cpu's / nodes,
> > and if they go offline, transfer their accumulated stats to some other
> > "victim"?
> 
> That's very complicated, and unlikely to be worth it.

for_each_online_cpu() and a few-line hotplug handler?  I'd like to see
an implementation before deciding that it's too complex...

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28  6:00 [PATCH 1/2] mm: NUMA stats code cleanup and enhancement Kemi Wang
2017-11-28  6:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Rename zone_statistics() to numa_statistics() Kemi Wang
2017-11-28  8:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: NUMA stats code cleanup and enhancement Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-28  8:33   ` kemi
2017-11-28 18:40   ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-28 21:56     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2017-11-28 22:52     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-29 12:17 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  5:56   ` kemi
2017-11-30  8:53     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  9:32       ` kemi
2017-11-30  9:45         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30 11:06           ` Wang, Kemi
2017-12-08  8:38           ` kemi
2017-12-08  8:47             ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-12  2:05               ` kemi
2017-12-12  8:11                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-14  1:40                   ` kemi
2017-12-14  7:29                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-14  8:55                       ` kemi
2017-12-14  9:23                         ` Michal Hocko

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