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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Huaisheng Ye <yehs1@lenovo.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	chengnt@lenovo.com, pasha.tatashin@oracle.com,
	Sasha Levin <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	colyli@suse.de, Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 12:18:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180507191857.GA15604@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hBJN3npXwg3Ur32JSWtKvBUZh7F8W+Exx3BB-uKWwPag@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:57:10AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> I think adding yet one more mm-zone is the wrong direction. Instead,
> what we have been considering is a mechanism to allow a device-dax
> instance to be given back to the kernel as a distinct numa node
> managed by the VM. It seems it times to dust off those patches.

I was wondering how "safe" we think that ability is.  NV-DIMM pages
(obviously) differ from normal pages by their non-volatility.  Do we
want their contents from the previous boot to be observable?  If not,
then we need the BIOS to clear them at boot-up, which means we would
want no kernel changes at all; rather the BIOS should just describe
those pages as if they were DRAM (after zeroing them).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 14:50 [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-07 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/6] arch/x86/kernel: mark NVDIMM regions from e820_table Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-07 18:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-07 18:57   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:08     ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-07 19:17       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:28         ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-07 19:29           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  2:59       ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-08  3:09         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-09  4:47           ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-10 16:27             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 16:07               ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-15 16:20                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-16  2:05                   ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-16  2:48                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-16  8:33                       ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-16  2:52                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-16  4:10                       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  3:52         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:18     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-05-07 19:30       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  0:54   ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-08  2:00 Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-08  2:30 Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-10  7:57 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  8:41   ` Michal Hocko

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