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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Huaisheng HS1 Ye <yehs1@lenovo.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	NingTing Cheng <chengnt@lenovo.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pasha.tatashin@oracle.com" <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "colyli@suse.de" <colyli@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sasha Levin <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [External]  Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 20:09:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180508030959.GB16338@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HK2PR03MB1684659175EB0A11E75E9B61929A0@HK2PR03MB1684.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:59:40AM +0000, Huaisheng HS1 Ye wrote:
> Currently in our mind, an ideal use scenario is that, we put all page caches to
> zone_nvm, without any doubt, page cache is an efficient and common cache
> implement, but it has a disadvantage that all dirty data within it would has risk
> to be missed by power failure or system crash. If we put all page caches to NVDIMMs,
> all dirty data will be safe. 

That's a common misconception.  Some dirty data will still be in the
CPU caches.  Are you planning on building servers which have enough
capacitance to allow the CPU to flush all dirty data from LLC to NV-DIMM?

Then there's the problem of reconnecting the page cache (which is
pointed to by ephemeral data structures like inodes and dentries) to
the new inodes.

And then you have to convince customers that what you're doing is safe
enough for them to trust it ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 14:50 [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-07 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/6] arch/x86/kernel: mark NVDIMM regions from e820_table Huaisheng Ye
2018-05-07 18:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] use mm to manage NVDIMM (pmem) zone Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-07 18:57   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:08     ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-07 19:17       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:28         ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-07 19:29           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  2:59       ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-08  3:09         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-05-09  4:47           ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-10 16:27             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 16:07               ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-15 16:20                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-16  2:05                   ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-16  2:48                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-16  8:33                       ` Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-05-16  2:52                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-16  4:10                       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  3:52         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-07 19:18     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-07 19:30       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08  0:54   ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye

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