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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Miguel de Dios <migueldedios@google.com>,
	Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: release the spinlock on zap_pte_range
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:11:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190730121110.GA184615@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729083515.GD9330@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:35:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 29-07-19 17:20:52, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 09:45:23AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Mon 29-07-19 16:10:37, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > In our testing(carmera recording), Miguel and Wei found unmap_page_range
> > > > takes above 6ms with preemption disabled easily. When I see that, the
> > > > reason is it holds page table spinlock during entire 512 page operation
> > > > in a PMD. 6.2ms is never trivial for user experince if RT task couldn't
> > > > run in the time because it could make frame drop or glitch audio problem.
> > > 
> > > Where is the time spent during the tear down? 512 pages doesn't sound
> > > like a lot to tear down. Is it the TLB flushing?
> > 
> > Miguel confirmed there is no such big latency without mark_page_accessed
> > in zap_pte_range so I guess it's the contention of LRU lock as well as
> > heavy activate_page overhead which is not trivial, either.
> 
> Please give us more details ideally with some numbers.

I had a time to benchmark it via adding some trace_printk hooks between
pte_offset_map_lock and pte_unmap_unlock in zap_pte_range. The testing
device is 2018 premium mobile device.

I can get 2ms delay rather easily to release 2M(ie, 512 pages) when the
task runs on little core even though it doesn't have any IPI and LRU
lock contention. It's already too heavy.

If I remove activate_page, 35-40% overhead of zap_pte_range is gone
so most of overhead(about 0.7ms) comes from activate_page via
mark_page_accessed. Thus, if there are LRU contention, that 0.7ms could
accumulate up to several ms.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-30 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  7:10 [PATCH] mm: release the spinlock on zap_pte_range Minchan Kim
2019-07-29  7:45 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29  8:20   ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-29  8:35     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-30 12:11       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2019-07-30 12:32         ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-30 12:39           ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-30 12:57             ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31  5:44               ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-31  7:21                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06 10:55                   ` Minchan Kim
2019-08-09 12:43                     ` [RFC PATCH] mm: drop mark_page_access from the unmap path Michal Hocko
2019-08-09 17:57                       ` Mel Gorman
2019-08-09 18:34                       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-08-12  8:09                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-12 15:07                           ` Johannes Weiner
2019-08-13 10:51                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-26 12:06                               ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-27 16:00                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-08-27 18:41                                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-30 19:42     ` [PATCH] mm: release the spinlock on zap_pte_range Andrew Morton
2019-07-31  6:14       ` Minchan Kim
2019-08-06  7:05 ` [mm] 755d6edc1a: will-it-scale.per_process_ops -4.1% regression kernel test robot
     [not found]   ` <20190806080415.GG11812@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-08-06 11:00     ` Minchan Kim
2019-08-06 11:11       ` Michal Hocko

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