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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Masoud Sharbiani <msharbiani@apple.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"vdavydov.dev@gmail.com" <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: Possible mem cgroup bug in kernels between 4.18.0 and 5.3-rc1.
Date: Sat,  3 Aug 2019 13:45:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190803054525.8284-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)


On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 21:40:29 +0800 Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> On Fri 02-08-19 20:10:58, Hillf Danton wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 16:18:40 +0800 Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > Huh, what? You are effectively saying that we should fail the charge
> > > when the requested nr_pages would fit in. This doesn't make much sense
> > > to me. What are you trying to achive here?
> >
> > The report looks like the result of a tight loop.
> > I want to break it and make the end result of do_page_fault unsuccessful
> > if nr_retries rounds of page reclaiming fail to get work done. What made
> > me a bit over stretched is how to determine if the chargee is a memhog
> > in memcg's vocabulary.
> > What I prefer here is that do_page_fault succeeds, even if the chargee
> > exhausts its memory quota/budget granted, as long as more than nr_pages
> > can be reclaimed _within_ nr_retries rounds. IOW the deadline for memhog
> > is nr_retries, and no more.
> 
> No, this really doesn't really make sense because it leads to pre-mature
> charge failures. The charge path is funadamentally not different from
> the page allocator path. We do try to reclaim and retry the allocation.
> We keep retrying for ever for non-costly order requests in both cases
> (modulo some corner cases like oom victims etc.).

You are right. It is hard to produce a cure for all corner cases.
We can handle them one by one to reduce the chance that a cpuhog
comes under memory pressure.

Hillf


             reply	other threads:[~2019-08-03  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-03  5:45 Hillf Danton [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-08-02 12:10 Possible mem cgroup bug in kernels between 4.18.0 and 5.3-rc1 Hillf Danton
2019-08-02 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-01 18:04 Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-01 18:19 ` Greg KH
2019-08-01 22:26   ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-02  1:08   ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-02  8:08     ` Hillf Danton
2019-08-02  8:18     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-02  7:40 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-02 14:18   ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-02 14:41     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-02 18:00       ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-02 19:14         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-02 23:28           ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-03  2:36             ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-03 15:51               ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-03 17:41                 ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-03 18:24                   ` Masoud Sharbiani
2019-08-05  8:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-05 11:36                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-05 11:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-05 14:00                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-05 14:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06 10:26                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-06 10:50                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-05  8:18             ` Michal Hocko

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