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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm: Check if mmu notifier callbacks are allowed to fail
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:22:38 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190814232238.GA11200@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190814151447.e9ab74f4c7ed4297e39321d1@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 03:14:47PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:20:23 +0200 Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> 
> > Just a bit of paranoia, since if we start pushing this deep into
> > callchains it's hard to spot all places where an mmu notifier
> > implementation might fail when it's not allowed to.
> > 
> > Inspired by some confusion we had discussing i915 mmu notifiers and
> > whether we could use the newly-introduced return value to handle some
> > corner cases. Until we realized that these are only for when a task
> > has been killed by the oom reaper.
> > 
> > An alternative approach would be to split the callback into two
> > versions, one with the int return value, and the other with void
> > return value like in older kernels. But that's a lot more churn for
> > fairly little gain I think.
> > 
> > Summary from the m-l discussion on why we want something at warning
> > level: This allows automated tooling in CI to catch bugs without
> > humans having to look at everything. If we just upgrade the existing
> > pr_info to a pr_warn, then we'll have false positives. And as-is, no
> > one will ever spot the problem since it's lost in the massive amounts
> > of overall dmesg noise.
> > 
> > ...
> >
> > +++ b/mm/mmu_notifier.c
> > @@ -179,6 +179,8 @@ int __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(struct mmu_notifier_range *range)
> >  				pr_info("%pS callback failed with %d in %sblockable context.\n",
> >  					mn->ops->invalidate_range_start, _ret,
> >  					!mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range) ? "non-" : "");
> > +				WARN_ON(mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range) ||
> > +					ret != -EAGAIN);
> >  				ret = _ret;
> >  			}
> >  		}
> 
> A problem with WARN_ON(a || b) is that if it triggers, we don't know
> whether it was because of a or because of b.  Or both.  So I'd suggest
> 
> 	WARN_ON(a);
> 	WARN_ON(b);
> 

Well, we did just make a pr_info right above with the value of
blockable, that seems enough to tell the cases apart?

But you are generally right, the full logic:

    if (_ret) {
      if (WARN_ON(mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range)))
            continue;
      WARN_ON(_ret != -EAGAIN);
      ret = -EAGAIN;
      break;
    }

would force correct API contract up the call chain once we detect a
broken driver..

But at some point it does feel like a bit much debugging logic to have
in a production code path, as this should never happen and is just to
discourage wrong driver behaviors during driver development.

If we like this version then:

Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>

Also - I have a bunch of other patches to mmu notifiers for hmm.git,
so when everyone agrees I can grab this to avoid conflicts.

Thanks,
Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-14 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 20:20 [PATCH 0/5] hmm & mmu_notifier debug/lockdep annotations Daniel Vetter
2019-08-14 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Check if mmu notifier callbacks are allowed to fail Daniel Vetter
2019-08-14 22:14   ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-14 23:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-08-14 23:34     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-08-16 17:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-14 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel.h: Add non_block_start/end() Daniel Vetter
2019-08-14 20:45   ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-15  6:52     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15  8:44     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 13:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 13:12         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 14:37           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 14:43             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 15:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 16:25                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 17:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 17:39                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 18:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 18:27                         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 18:57                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 16:32                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 17:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 17:21                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 17:35                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 13:24         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 22:15       ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-16  8:24         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-14 23:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15  6:58     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 12:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 13:21         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 14:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 16:00             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 16:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 17:11                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 17:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 17:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 17:57                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-15 18:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 19:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 19:18                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 19:35                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 20:13                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16  8:10                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-16 12:19                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16 12:26                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-15 20:16                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 20:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 20:49                               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-16  1:00                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16  6:20                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-16 12:12                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16 14:11                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-16 14:38                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16 16:36                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-16 16:54                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16  8:27                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-14 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm, notifier: Catch sleeping/blocking for !blockable Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15  0:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15  7:02     ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]       ` <20190815123556.GB21596@ziepe.ca>
2019-08-17 16:09         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-14 20:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, notifier: Add a lockdep map for invalidate_range_start Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15  0:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15  7:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15 12:53       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-14 20:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm/hmm: WARN on illegal ->sync_cpu_device_pagetables errors Daniel Vetter
2019-08-15  0:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15  7:14     ` Daniel Vetter

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