From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch for-5.3 0/4] revert immediate fallback to remote hugepages
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:18:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191004121824.GH9578@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <788d3e5b-40e6-916a-9e3f-7f03fa9d618d@suse.cz>
On Thu 03-10-19 10:00:08, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/3/19 12:32 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> >>>> If
> >>>> hugetlb wants to stress this to the fullest extent possible, it already
> >>>> appropriately uses __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL.
> >>>
> >>> Which doesn't work anymore right now, and should again after this patch.
> >>
> >> I didn't get to fully digest the patch Vlastimil is proposing. (Ab)using
> >> __GFP_NORETRY is quite subtle but it is already in place with some
> >> explanation and a reference to THPs. So while I am not really happy it
> >> is at least something you can reason about.
> >>
> >
> > It's a no-op:
> >
> > /* Do not loop if specifically requested */
> > if (gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)
> > goto nopage;
> >
> > /*
> > * Do not retry costly high order allocations unless they are
> > * __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL
> > */
> > if (costly_order && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL))
> > goto nopage;
> >
> > So I'm not sure we should spend too much time discussing a hunk of a patch
> > that doesn't do anything.
>
> I believe Michal was talking about my (ab)use of __GFP_NORETRY, where it
> controls the earlier 'goto nopage' condition.
That is correct. From a maintainability point of view it would be better
to have only a single bailout of an optimistic compaction attempt. If we
go with [1] then we have two different criterion to bail out and
that is really messy and error prone. While sticking __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL
as suggest in [1] fixes up the immediate regression in the simplest way
this all really begs for a proper analysis and a _real_ fix. Can we move
that direction finally, please?
I would really love to conduct further testing but I haven't really
heard anything to results presented so far. I have no idea whether
that is even remotely resembling anything David needs for his claimed
regression.
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.21.1910021556270.187014@chino.kir.corp.google.com
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-04 12:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-04 19:54 [patch for-5.3 0/4] revert immediate fallback to remote hugepages David Rientjes
2019-09-04 19:54 ` [rfc 3/4] mm, page_alloc: avoid expensive reclaim when compaction may not succeed David Rientjes
2019-09-05 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-05 11:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-05 20:53 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-09-06 20:16 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-06 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-04 20:43 ` [patch for-5.3 0/4] revert immediate fallback to remote hugepages Linus Torvalds
2019-09-05 20:54 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-07 19:51 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-07 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-08 1:50 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-08 12:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-09-08 20:45 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-09 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-04 20:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-09-05 21:06 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-09 19:30 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-25 7:08 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-26 19:03 ` David Rientjes
2019-09-27 7:48 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-28 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-30 11:28 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-01 5:43 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-01 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-18 14:15 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 11:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-24 18:59 ` David Rientjes
2019-10-29 14:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-29 15:15 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-29 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-29 21:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-29 23:25 ` David Rientjes
2019-11-05 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-06 1:01 ` David Rientjes
2019-11-06 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-06 21:32 ` David Rientjes
2019-11-13 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-25 0:10 ` David Rientjes
2019-11-25 11:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 20:38 ` David Rientjes
2019-11-25 21:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-01 13:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-01 20:31 ` David Rientjes
2019-10-01 21:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-02 10:34 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-02 22:32 ` David Rientjes
2019-10-03 8:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-04 12:18 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
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